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Re: 37signals becomes Basecamp

#61
Lol. People, why the hate?

90% of the 'issues' raised in the comment thread including that by alexcroox can be answered by reading the post.

Here, in case you missed it http://37signals.com/

The other 10% are outright misleading.

BTW, Alex Croox, once you start a business, you must run it forever right? Well, I have decided to build my flow around all your project here alexcrooks.me

Don't shut any down hommie.

Re: 37signals becomes Basecamp

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlassian already owns HipChat. Bet GitHub steps up, as they use it already.

Github would be better to write a campfire clone in a day or so, and roll it out. I'm betting github has a larger userbase than campfire, so what would be the point in paying a few million for campfire?

The talent and know-how?

I thought we were already past the "why buy it if you can copy it".

Re: 37signals becomes Basecamp

#65
post #49

Software is a hard business. Novel becomes trivial fast. Competitive edge can become a standard "best" practice fast and a product or business which was revolutionary and profitable one decade can seem naive the next. Basecamp needs to move to keep up. They have their commitment to "not too much software" and simplicity which is great but has some tradeoffs. In any case, collaboration between people working on things…

And that space has a ton of competitors in it now, too. Some heavy hitters like Podio, Asana, Zoho.

I don't see any reason why some of 37's other products can't get rolled up into Basecamp as features/modules though.

Re: 37signals becomes Basecamp

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Github would be better to write a campfire clone in a day or so, and roll it out. I'm betting github has a larger userbase than campfire, so what would be the point in paying a few million for campfire?

The talent and know-how? I thought we were already past the "why buy it if you can copy it".

"Talent and know how"? Seriously?

Is writing a webchat client some black dark art?

There's nothing much you need to know to write a webchat client. Campfire isn't high volume, so it doesn't need to be too efficient either. Last time I checked campfire processes a few messages a second. Heck you could rewrite it in PHP/MySQL if you were that way inclined.

Campfire didn't succeed because it was a good product. It succeeded because they marketed it to their "following" who bought into it.

Re: 37signals becomes Basecamp

#68
post #40

is it just me or they are saying 'in other words' that only basecamp succeeded and most other products failed ? otherwise why not just bring in more devs instead of focusing on one product.

I don't think you can call highrise being valued for "tens of millions" and campfire in "single digit millions" a failure.

Re: 37signals becomes Basecamp

#69
post #40

is it just me or they are saying 'in other words' that only basecamp succeeded and most other products failed ? otherwise why not just bring in more devs instead of focusing on one product.

Did you read the post? They specifically said they don't want to grow, and want a company where everyone knows everyone else. Simple "hiring more devs" flies in the face of this desire.

Honestly it can be liberating to strip out less than ideal elements from your business to focus on what you love and what is working the best.

Re: 37signals becomes Basecamp

#70
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you have the resources to support something, should you if its not your core focus? Personal I feel that Google is still run as a startup, which is fantastic however people expect Google to be a corporate company.

How is google anything like a startup?

I meant startup as a culture not in the terms of funding. The fact that Google starts and closes down products very frequently is evidence of this. What about Google X? Isn't that a bit like a startup?

Maybe I meant to say that departments WITHIN Google are run like startups not Google itself.

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