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Re: Two big announcements

#81
I really like 37signals, for Ruby, Rails or basically their taste for tech and their startup culture / their books. But none of their product really catches me. They are from ok to very good. But not great. Actually Basecamp was the only very good one.

Preferring Trello or Pivotal Tracker.

Re: Two big announcements

#82

Very interesting announcement. I'm sure they're making the right decision, and I'm even more sure they did a ton of user testing. However, it's weird to lose the 37 Signals brand. I actually don't like Basecamp as a product, but I love 37 Signals. I treat their books like a bible, and read their blog posts religiously. Somehow, they seemed like more like a philosophy than just a product, and Basecamp (and Rails and t…

Though I share your sentiments about losing the 37Signals name, their philsophy remains the same and I have high hopes that this change will result in an even better Basecamp!

Re: Two big announcements

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I predict that GitHub will acquire Campfire.

Not sure why anybody would want to acquire Campfire? It's an utterly terrible product. If GitHub wanted to added chat collaboration features they'd write them from scratch based upon WebSockets / Socket.IO... not the legacy polling that Campfire does!

GitHub are known to have invested a lot in using Campfire, for example their bot Hubot integrates really well and they use it to manage the majority of their infrastructure.

Re: Two big announcements

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Am I the only one who doesn't get why Basecamp is praised so much? I think it is okay, but nothing exceptionally. Also if I didn't knew the product, I would never signup when looking at the frontpage, it looks very outdated, and not very trustworthy. Hopefully a better focus, will make the experience more up-to-date.

Agree with that, I didn't really know what it was before this article, just looked at the website and can't imagine companies being attracted by it.

Re: Two big announcements

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I doubt unless they want to kill Hipchat and use Campfire. We will not sell either of these products to a company that is planning to shut the products down. IMO Hipchat is a better chat tool than Campfire.

Why kill either? They are already a big player in the market, if they have Campfire too their will dominate it.

Maintaining two products that overlap that much is going to look like a waste sooner or later.

Re: Two big announcements

#86

Seems like a weird strategy. I admire the focus shown, but what if Thomas Edison had decided after 10 years to rebrand GE as Something Something Light Bulbs, Inc?

If all they were making would be light bulbs, why not? RIM rebranded to BlackBerry (though RIP may have been a better choice :( ).

Re: Two big announcements

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We use basecamp and campfire at work. Basecamp is mediocre, not horrible and not great. Campfire sucks compared to similar tools that I've used in the past. Seems to me that they've been successful mostly because of their involvement in the Ruby and startup world, rather than making great products. Nothing wrong with that, but it's good to be clear about the distinction between a company that makes great product and…

It was also a pretty dick move when they complained after someone (from Google?) reimplemented campfire in a day, and made them take it down.

If your entire product can be copied in a day, it's probably not that great.

Re: Two big announcements

#88
My hunch - as I was reading - was that the second announcement would be that they'd open-source the other products.. I was wrong.

Re: Two big announcements

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why kill either? They are already a big player in the market, if they have Campfire too their will dominate it.

Maintaining two products that overlap that much is going to look like a waste sooner or later.

They could just have two different frontends, everything else the same.

Re: Two big announcements

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We use basecamp and campfire at work. Basecamp is mediocre, not horrible and not great. Campfire sucks compared to similar tools that I've used in the past. Seems to me that they've been successful mostly because of their involvement in the Ruby and startup world, rather than making great products. Nothing wrong with that, but it's good to be clear about the distinction between a company that makes great product and…

What are great alternatives to Basecamp? (I don't use Basecamp but am interested in the space.)
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