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Re: Two big announcements

#11
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I predict that GitHub will acquire Campfire.

It's definitely possible but I wonder what Githubs strategy long term is and how it would fit into that. While I'm sure there are lot of people that use Campfire at GH (or maybe not), it may not be right for them to take care of and expand.

Re: Two big announcements

#12
post #6

So what happens to the other products?

Q: If you're going all in on Basecamp, what happens to Campfire and Highrise?

In the short term, everything stays the same. Business as usual. No interruption in service, no changes that affect our customers.

In the long term, one of three things:

SCENARIO 1: We'll spin them off into separate companies where we'll retain partial ownership, but another fully-dedicated team will run the products and own the majority of the company. This would be our ideal situation as it would ensure continuity and no interruption for our customers, but we'd have to find the right entrepreneur/team with the right experience and enough financing to make it work.

SCENARIO 2: We'll sell the products outright (either separately or together). The key for us in this scenario is that the products, and our customers, are well looked after. We will not sell either of these products to a company that is planning to shut the products down. And since no one from our team goes with the sale, this is not an acqui-hire situation. We're looking to sell to a company that wants to add well-respected, well-established, profitable, growing products to their portfolio.

SCENARIO 3: If we can't find the right partner or buyer, we are committed to continuing to run the products for our existing customers forever. We won't sell the products to new customers, but existing customers can continue to use the products just as they always have. The products will shift into maintenance mode which means there will be no new development, only security updates or minor bug fixes. We did this successfully in 2012 with Ta-da List, Writeboard, and Backpack, so we know how to make it work.

If you're a company or team interested in exploring scenario 1 (spin-off) or scenario 2 (outright purchase), please get in touch. Based on current revenues, current growth rates, and a conservative multiple, Campfire will sell in the single digit millions, and Highrise will sell in the tens of millions, so serious inquires only please. Disclosure: We're currently in early discussions with a few interested parties.

Re: Two big announcements

#13
post #3

And I was just about to integrate Highrise into my app...moving on! Any suggestions on a Highrise competitor that is stable, etc.?

Give us a shot... http://close.io/

We've also got an easy migration tool for any existing Highrise users: http://close.io/highrise and a solid REST API http://developer.close.io/

Re: Two big announcements

#14
1999 founded.

2004 first product launched.

5 years after the company and team came together.

5 years of time to hone the skills and struggle.

Oh yah, and another 10 years to grow to 43 people.

Simple reminder of the commitment to patience it can actually take to build a remarkable business.

Re: Two big announcements

#15
post #3

And I was just about to integrate Highrise into my app...moving on! Any suggestions on a Highrise competitor that is stable, etc.?

We use Capsule + Streak. We're big fans of streak, but it's a baby CRM perfect for pipelines... we use Capsule to manage all of the other stuff. (Who talked to whom, etc.)

Re: Two big announcements

#16
"Based on current revenues, current growth rates, and a conservative multiple, Campfire will sell in the single digit millions, and Highrise will sell in the tens of millions"

Anyone care to take a guess to what Campfire and Highrise revenue? What type of multiple of revenue do they expect to get?

Re: Two big announcements

#18
37 Signals is the reason I started learning how to make web apps. They are really the poster child of successful independent software vendors. Not focusing on burning investors cash but growing as a profitable business. One can only dream to match their level of success.

Re: Two big announcements

#19
Very interesting announcement. I'm sure they're making the right decision, and I'm even more sure they did a ton of user testing.

However, it's weird to lose the 37 Signals brand. I actually don't like Basecamp as a product, but I love 37 Signals. I treat their books like a bible, and read their blog posts religiously. Somehow, they seemed like more like a philosophy than just a product, and Basecamp (and Rails and their books) were a side effect.

I know it's the same people and nothing will really change (A rose by any other name...), but it's still so weird to me to lose 37 Signals.

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