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Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

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Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#81
post #47

Most airline lounges in the U.S. offer free snacks, wine and beer – not meals.

Not saying it's the same everywhere but with British Airways you can access a better lounge if you're First Class (not sure if they have meals - maybe someone can confirm that).

Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#82
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't it get you in trouble? You'd have to check your bags under the standard ticket, but enter security under the premium one, and airport security might realize they have the same person on the flight twice. I thought that was a classic red flag?

Barring extraordinary circumstances, checking bags while flying is a textbook case of doing it wrong.

Why is that?

Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#83
post #34

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Not if you tell them you're just going to eat. Seems like that's pretty easy to confirm. Why be sneaky about it? Obviously nobody at the airline lounge cared that this guy showed up every day, why would the guards care?

Imagine you're a guard there and I drop by every day for a meal. You're wondering if I'm a a terrorist looking for security holes while I eat, and your biggest concern is false negatives: you would hate to rule me out as a threat and then find out I blew up your airport. What questions would you ask me to figure that out?

Can't prove a negative. Next question?

Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#84
post #81
post #47

Most airline lounges in the U.S. offer free snacks, wine and beer – not meals.

Not saying it's the same everywhere but with British Airways you can access a better lounge if you're First Class (not sure if they have meals - maybe someone can confirm that).

Both the Business Class and First Class BA lounges at LHR T5 have meals.

Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#85
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Barring extraordinary circumstances, checking bags while flying is a textbook case of doing it wrong.

Why is that?

Checking bags adds a lot of time to your trip after the plane lands, you have to wait ages in many cases for the ground crews to unload and process your baggage. In addition the size for carry-on luggage is pretty large with a small amount of work you can pretty easily get all you need for a trip into the carry-on baggage.

Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#86

The idea of having to go through security everyday for free meals sounds unpalatable.

This story happened in China. I don't know about China, but maybe their airport security is not as bad as U.S. Personal story: Bringing liquids to airplanes is not allowed in Iran. I remember on our flight back from Shiraz, we brought about 8 liters of rose water, orange blossom water, etc. with us. The security saw it in the screen and asked what the liquid was. "Herbal water", I said. He nodded and called, "Next".…

They follow the American protocols, and then some.

Last time I was there, after handing my bags over I got called to the inspector's room. They'd x-rayed my bags and seen a cigarette lighter [1]. I have no idea how they recognized it as such, but they pointed to the area in my bag where it had been seen, and asked me to open the bag and remove it.

On another flight, we were all waiting in line to check-in, but the agents hadn't shown up. Somebody gave up on waiting, and just left their bags sitting in line - this while the recording about unattended bags was playing (yes, they've got that in China, too). It was funny to watch everyone in the line studiously ignoring the unattended bag, for fear that they'd shut down the terminal while calling the bomb squad, and we'd all miss our plane.

[1] I don't smoke, but it's in my first aid kit for sterilizing a needle.

Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#87
post #68
post #37

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It's really not a problem for places with decent public transportation. There are parts of the world where it makes sense to have a monthly or annual pass. I've no idea what it is like in the area where this occurred though.

The Skytrain in Vancouver goes from the downtown to YVR in about 30 minutes. It is possible to go to the airport and back on a $2.75 ticket (on weekends and holidays; the ticket is valid for 90 minutes).

Here in Guatemala you can take public transportation for about 0.125 USD, if you live near to the airport it could be worth the time.

Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#88
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that?

Checking bags adds a lot of time to your trip after the plane lands, you have to wait ages in many cases for the ground crews to unload and process your baggage. In addition the size for carry-on luggage is pretty large with a small amount of work you can pretty easily get all you need for a trip into the carry-on baggage.

Except for a few bad days, I generally don't wait long for my checked luggage. It's sometimes already there by the time I make it to the claim area. Finding overhead space can be a hassle and I much prefer boarding and unboarding without dragging a ton of stuff. And carry-on obviously limits the items you can bring along on a plane.

Your arguments are perfectly valid for some, but this is isn't a case of "this method is obviously right".

Re: Hacking Airline Lounges for Free Meals

#90
post #27

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I don't understand the apparent desire for early boarding. Almost every airport lounge I've been in has been more comfortable than the aircraft. The plane's not going to leave without you. I much prefer sitting in the lounge and wandering on last.

> The plane's not going to leave without you. I saw at least one case where a checked-in passenger arrived around 7 min before the official departure time (he was in a bar) but the gates were already closed and they didn't let him in.

That's a different situation. Boarding time is often up to half an hour before departure. If you're at the gate but sitting (rather than queuing anxiously or even, as some people do, trying your best to board first for some reason) then they're not going to deny you boarding simply for being one of the last people to board the plane. If there's a gap between the queue ending before you arrive, then you're more likely to be denied boarding.
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