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Re: Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO

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Post by Crito »

taylodl wrote: post #294
YZF wrote: post #273

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Really? The world of Google and Apple (Samsung and FOSS aren't even a player) is a world of closed computing platforms where people can't control their own devices and can't and don't code for them. More languages? I don't think so. How many languages can you use to write apps for your iPhone or Android device? Objective C and Java respectively and that's about it. With Google not only do you not control your apps/de…

There's lots of languages you can use to create iOS applications: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3949995/what-programming-... Android allows you to freely deploy your applications to their devices, while iOS requires a little more work. In neither case do you have to go through their respective stores (I'm thinking enterprise/personal apps here). For commercial sales it's increasingly a moot point: consumers are…

> "There's lots of languages you can use to create iOS applications: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3949995/what-programming-.... "

Compared to truly open devices, and moderately open systems (even Windows or OSX), that is an absolute joke.

Re: Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO

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Post by BlackDeath3 »

workhere-io wrote: post #170
kunai wrote: post #159

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The sad thing is that I'm of Indian heritage and I have to agree with him. It's not related to race, it's more about the education that most Indians receive. All are taught more about being bean-counters than striving to create new and innovative (gah, hate that word) solutions. I like the Metro approach. It just needs to be split into two configurations for both desktop and a tablet OS, and Microsoft could have a re…

it's more about the education that most Indians receive. He was educated in the US. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Nadella : "Nadella earned an MS in Computer Science from the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee and an MBA from the University of Chicago Booth School of Business."

For what it's worth (and I don't plan to weigh-in on the topic of Indian education one way or the other, as I have no knowledge in this area) he did receive his BS in EE at Mangalore University[0], in India.

[0]: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/exec/nadella/

Re: Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO

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Post by wtbob »

r00fus wrote: post #260
wtbob wrote: post #169

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Twenty-two years ago, Windows 95 was three years in the future. As I recall, Microsoft's only truly great product was Word (Excel was getting there, I think), although I guess Flight Simulator wasn't too bad. Microsoft was trying to pretend that Windows 3.1 was a competitor to the Mac. Lisp machines were still trying to make a go of it.

In 1991, Microsoft was already ascendant. You may be too young to remember, but MS-DOS was everywhere. Given the failures of Commodore and Atari, the rise and fall of the 80's unix wars, and with Jobs no longer at Apple, Microsoft essentially took visionary leadership of the computing scene by default. Instead of using proper unix machines, my early computing years were spent on DOS and Win 3.1.

I was around back then, and was using Macs and Unix, looking down on folks for using Windows & DOS. To this day, I can't begin to fathom the sort of mindset it takes to settle for worst.

I certainly would not have agreed that Microsoft ca. 1992 was at all visionary. I felt embarrassed for them and their users back then, much as I would for an adult who shows up at the office proud of the childish fingerpainting he spent the last month making. Grasping, copying, but not visionary.

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shmerl wrote: post #288
_random_ wrote: post #282

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Incorrect, Xamarin is currently the best option for multi-platform development and it has a good Visual Studio integration.

Not really. C++ is way better in cross platform coverage.

Yeah, but you want a higher-level language for most apps.

Re: Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO

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Post by shmerl »

_random_ wrote: post #304
shmerl wrote: post #288

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Not really. C++ is way better in cross platform coverage.

Yeah, but you want a higher-level language for most apps.

Questionable, or I'd say depends on your taste. In mobile sphere C++ does just fine, especially when combined with Qt and QML. And performance still matters most of the time, whether we are talking about embedded or server systems.

Re: Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO

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Post by _random_ »

romanovcode wrote: post #285
_random_ wrote: post #282

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Incorrect, Xamarin is currently the best option for multi-platform development and it has a good Visual Studio integration.

Just imagine how fast it would become popular if you could host MVC5/WebApi on Linux.

True :(

Re: Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO

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Post by Zardoz84 »

majkinetor wrote: post #107
gretful wrote: post #46

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I'd take bash over PowerShell any day. The whole Windows philosophy makes building stuff out of disconnected smaller parts harder than it needs to be.

That is not PS problem but community problem. PowerShell is years ahead of bash. Bash community is decades ahead.

Try fish. It's year ahead of bash and powershell.

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Post by BlackDeath3 »

sdegutis wrote: post #262
pdpi wrote: post #232

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Their influence on desktop is slowly eroding, though, and the new battlefield is the internet.

Yep. I honestly could see the desktop being relegated to only scientists, programmers, IT, and possibly gamers, with mobile and tablet devices replacing it for nearly everyone else. This kinda makes me sad, seeing as I'm in the programmers group, and our fun toys (desktops) are starting to go away, but ultimately it's probably the right direction for society.

As long as the fun stuff is still available, I don't much care if my mother uses it all that often. If I can still put together a kickass gaming/programming PC, with nice big monitors and a comfortable chair, I'm happy.

Re: Satya Nadella – Microsoft's CEO

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Post by Locke1689 »

taylodl wrote: post #294
YZF wrote: post #273

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Really? The world of Google and Apple (Samsung and FOSS aren't even a player) is a world of closed computing platforms where people can't control their own devices and can't and don't code for them. More languages? I don't think so. How many languages can you use to write apps for your iPhone or Android device? Objective C and Java respectively and that's about it. With Google not only do you not control your apps/de…

There's lots of languages you can use to create iOS applications: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3949995/what-programming-... Android allows you to freely deploy your applications to their devices, while iOS requires a little more work. In neither case do you have to go through their respective stores (I'm thinking enterprise/personal apps here). For commercial sales it's increasingly a moot point: consumers are…

Doesn't that link just say you can also use .NET and Lua on iOS?

So I guess your answer is, Objective-C, Lua, or Microsoft technologies (implemented by Xamarin)? I guess Microsoft may have a role to play in this. ;)

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