What?! Last time I used it (which felt about a year ago...) was version 3.5.3.
Firefox 27 Released
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Re: Firefox 27 Released
#72The second bullet is important, having up to date TLS is a big deal in today's security/spy conscience world. Its possible to currently get (if you monkey around in about:config), but default settings are powerful since the average user won't bother. And I mean average-user type average user, not average hackernews reader/poster.
How's My SSL? [1] now reports "Your SSL client is Probably Okay." for Firefox 27. Awesome! [1] https://www.howsmyssl.com/
An error occurred during a connection to www.howsmyssl.com.
Peer attempted old style (potentially vulnerable) handshake.
I don't think I would trust their judgement about how my SSL is doing.
I am happy about this Firefox release; it is not just that you had to be an advanced user to get TLS 1.2 previously but that doing so would break over half the web. Now it is possible to use TLS 1.2 where available and not use it when not available.
Re: Firefox 27 Released
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think so. It's easy now to look at the headline and think "Oh, just another Firefox release, it happens what? once a month?". That's a good thing. Users are upgrading, the process is smooth; Mozilla's having a relatively easy time iterating. Remember when Firefox 3, 4, and 5 came out? Each time, it was a big deal. Many complained and groaned. The upgrade process was problematic for many users. Some users woul…
I would much rather a long-term-stable product with fewer security vulnerabilities that didn't need frequent updates.
False logic. Slow update does not mean you have secure version. You can get ESR if you want the so-called LTS version. Freqeunt update addresses multiple things quickly:
(1) security vulnerability,
(2) performance regression
(3) new features
For a software widely used like FF, it is important that they keep the software up-to-date, make the software as slim as possible, and make the software easy to use. If you want to do some "AB" testing, frequent testing is necessary.
When was the last time you boot up Ubuntu LTS and think "oh I need to update?"
Browser tends to move fast and break fast because browser is a complex software and because the tool people use to make web application are so flexible there are so many corner cases (which can be abused to use to make things work) it is hard to have a dead version.
I look at the CentOS machine yesterday and I thought "god, where is the shiny webconsole that FF comes with?" CentOS apparently comes with old FF and I had to force to upgrade to 26.
Re: Firefox 27 Released
#74I see no one has mentioned Firefox 27 is the first major browser to have ES6 generators enabled by default - http://swannodette.github.io/2013/08/24/es6-generators-and-c... . Callback hell begone!
I realised yesterday that "yield" in Python (and I guess javascript) is kind of a baby continuation ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation ). It can be used to create coroutines and turn async code into sync (looking) code. Really powerful. Anyone interested should learn what continuations are (in Scheme).
I never got the point of generators until I saw Koa.js
I always thought generators were merely a way of making convoluted iterators, but when I realized that you can put your application logic inside a generator, in my head, it immediately turned it into a "how did I ever code without this before" kind of feature.
I just hope other browsers (especially IE) follow suit in implementing this feature
Re: Firefox 27 Released
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think so. It's easy now to look at the headline and think "Oh, just another Firefox release, it happens what? once a month?". That's a good thing. Users are upgrading, the process is smooth; Mozilla's having a relatively easy time iterating. Remember when Firefox 3, 4, and 5 came out? Each time, it was a big deal. Many complained and groaned. The upgrade process was problematic for many users. Some users woul…
I would much rather a long-term-stable product with fewer security vulnerabilities that didn't need frequent updates.
How did that work for the TOR browser? It didn't.
Re: Firefox 27 Released
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It's a good thing? Yeah, except that you waste half an hour EACH DAY staring at automatic software updates. At this point I simply disable automatic updates for much of the programs on my PC. This fashion of quick release cycles has gone way overboard.
Oh my god, that's ridiculous. Nobody spends half an hour a day waiting on auto updates. The update downloads in the background and takes just a few seconds to install after restarting the browser.
in fact, it doesnt even "restart it". its applied whenever the user restart the browser. it only notifies the user if he never restart the browser, after a day or two..
Re: Firefox 27 Released
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Right now firefox beats the pants off chrome for memory usage - that is why I'm using it.
Still it can't deal with memory pressure, and will just eventually oom & crash.
The problems I've been having in Firefox are with badly behaved apps - with memory leaks and stuff. Firefox manages memory better than Chrome, but when a tab leaks it can freeze the whole browser. Still, this happens rarely enough that it isn't an issue for me, plus Firefox is much better at keeping many tabs open. I did disable Flash and now I have to "click to play" - but I'm doing the same thing in Chrome too, because fuck Flash.
I feel like Chrome is better when rendering stuff - like we've got this plotted graph in our app's admin, rendered with Javascript and I believe HTML5 Canvas or something, with too many points on it and Firefox can't handle the rendering, it chokes, whereas Chrome can do it. On the other hand, I feel like Firefox is snappier in general.
Re: Firefox 27 Released
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It does, but if you want to update immediately go to About, there's a button there to update.
No, there is no button. Maybe because its "Mozilla Firefox for Linux Mint"? Did they fork Firefox and disabled updates?
You might want to check for updated packages. Or upgrade your Mint install; if so, this might help: https://gist.github.com/hgomez/7074150
Re: Firefox 27 Released
#79Some time ago I was a Firefox user. Then Chrome came out and I first started using it for free-time browsing, while still developing on Firefox. Later, I decided to fully migrate to Chrome. I've decided to change it again, so I'm going to give Firefox a try during this month. For now, it looks really nice, performance seems to be quite good and the feeling of getting at least a small part of my digital life away from…
I think you'll be quite impressed with Firefox's developer tools again. I've been more and more unhappy with Chrome's tools, mostly the subtle changes of not having filters and things so readily available anymore. The Firefox tools are quite slick though. I don't even use Firebug anymore.
So glad I am not the only one noticing the filter change. That additional click to display the filtering options that Chrome introduced really made me start using FF more and more for work.
I think this dumbing-down approach Google is doing with all their apps and websites will only alienate more and more professionals out of using their platform.
Re: Firefox 27 Released
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right now firefox beats the pants off chrome for memory usage - that is why I'm using it.
Still it can't deal with memory pressure, and will just eventually oom & crash.
You are talking about Chrome right ? We have a memory intensive app which works perfectly on FF26 (and IE11), and crashes the tab on Chrome 32 with memory hitting 3GB+ and up. Their garbage collector must be leaking like crazy. (Works in Chrome 22).