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Re: Firefox 27 Released

#21

Post by orbitur »

nfoz wrote: post #17
LukeShu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think so. It's easy now to look at the headline and think "Oh, just another Firefox release, it happens what? once a month?". That's a good thing. Users are upgrading, the process is smooth; Mozilla's having a relatively easy time iterating. Remember when Firefox 3, 4, and 5 came out? Each time, it was a big deal. Many complained and groaned. The upgrade process was problematic for many users. Some users woul…

I would much rather a long-term-stable product with fewer security vulnerabilities that didn't need frequent updates.

To have that, we would need to be disconnected from the internet.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

#22

Post by bloodorange »

terabytest wrote: post #8
bloodorange wrote: post #7

2013 was such a good hear for Mozilla that I now looked at this release and was thinking - "blah! just another FF release". I then realised what had happened. They have developed so much momentum and such a good track record that I have taken their best product's release for granted...

Is that sarcasm?

Not at all mate! I love Mozilla. If you look at what has come out of their efforts over the last year, you'll probably see why I said that:

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/12/16/mozilla-in-2013/

Re: Firefox 27 Released

#23

Post by nirvdrum »

nfoz wrote: post #17
LukeShu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think so. It's easy now to look at the headline and think "Oh, just another Firefox release, it happens what? once a month?". That's a good thing. Users are upgrading, the process is smooth; Mozilla's having a relatively easy time iterating. Remember when Firefox 3, 4, and 5 came out? Each time, it was a big deal. Many complained and groaned. The upgrade process was problematic for many users. Some users woul…

I would much rather a long-term-stable product with fewer security vulnerabilities that didn't need frequent updates.

Check out the Firefox ESR builds. They're supported for 1 year. Not super long-term, but better than 6 weeks:

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

Re: Firefox 27 Released

#25

Post by nly »

What are the market share stats like on FF versions these days? Presumably the auto-update feature means the vast majority are using the latest FF within a few weeks?

Re: Firefox 27 Released

#26

Post by gtaylor »

nfoz wrote: post #17
LukeShu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think so. It's easy now to look at the headline and think "Oh, just another Firefox release, it happens what? once a month?". That's a good thing. Users are upgrading, the process is smooth; Mozilla's having a relatively easy time iterating. Remember when Firefox 3, 4, and 5 came out? Each time, it was a big deal. Many complained and groaned. The upgrade process was problematic for many users. Some users woul…

I would much rather a long-term-stable product with fewer security vulnerabilities that didn't need frequent updates.

On the flipside, a frequently updated browser that is constantly improving is a bit of a moving target. Because of the ease for them to push out updates, vulnerabilities can be fixed and pushed out to the vast majority of users in short order. Malicious people may only get a few days/weeks to wreak havoc at a large scale, as the vast majority will have updated shortly after the problem is fixed.

In Forefox's case, the frequent releases more have to do with rapid improvement and iteration than anything. Read the changelog and notice how it was largely a bunch of mid-moderate improvements. Some CSS goodies, some JS goodies, some security goodies.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

#27

Post by pheelicks »

JanneVee wrote: post #11

The glsl shader editor isn't announced in the release notes. It is supposed to be included in FF 27. https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/11/live-editing-webgl-shaders...

The GLSL editor is really great, with just one thing making it a pain to use. Namely, the split between the vertex and fragment shader is always vertical (apart from when the tools are really thin overall). Does anyone know how I can force it to use a horizontal split?

While I'm whining, is it possible to show the console at the same time as viewing the source for files? The fact that I have to switch between the console and source tabs in FF is pretty much the only reason I use Chrome for debugging.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

#28

Post by veeti »

dudus wrote: post #14

Major browser updates used to be fun. Nowadays they just merge security updates and bump the numbers. Most won't even notice and just complain about the mandatory restart.

Just wait until Australis.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

#29

Post by iambateman »

nfoz wrote: post #17
LukeShu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think so. It's easy now to look at the headline and think "Oh, just another Firefox release, it happens what? once a month?". That's a good thing. Users are upgrading, the process is smooth; Mozilla's having a relatively easy time iterating. Remember when Firefox 3, 4, and 5 came out? Each time, it was a big deal. Many complained and groaned. The upgrade process was problematic for many users. Some users woul…

I would much rather a long-term-stable product with fewer security vulnerabilities that didn't need frequent updates.

If you want a browser that is released once per year...be my guest: http://www.apple.com/safari/

Re: Firefox 27 Released

#30

Post by iambateman »

nly wrote: post #25

What are the market share stats like on FF versions these days? Presumably the auto-update feature means the vast majority are using the latest FF within a few weeks?

Yes, legacy Firefox versions drop 95% almost immediately: http://cl.ly/image/1E433h1I1S01

(that is taken from a PR5 hospital site, should be pretty indicative of the general market.)

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