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Re: Put.io

#121

Anyone else worried a list of all your torrens is kept in one place and can be tied directly back to you via you Credit card, unless you pay via bitcoins. They might not do anything with this data but when pressed by Mr big Coporation they may have no choice...

I am. Anyone know details about the founders? Are these guys trying to make a statement, or out to make a buck? In which case, selling the data about its users would be a great monetization model.

Re: Put.io

#122
post #64

>Huge torrents are hard to get I'm not sure about this claim. From personal experience using ADSL, a 3G USB stick, my uni's 100Mbps connection back in the day and lowly 128k ISDN, I'd say that a torrent can either saturate one's connection with a healthy swarm or be slow as molasses due to the lack of seeds. I'm not sure how a seedbox can bypass the inherent mode of operation of the Bittorent protocol.

Simple, seedboxes tend to be close to other seedboxes. They then potentially talk to each other over the same network, or a nearby one they peer with, meaning bits generally have less distance to travel and over bigger pipes. A disproportionately large number of seedboxes are hosted on OVH's network.

The capacity from the seedboxes back to you might not be that great, but it doesn't matter because your home connection is so slow in comparison that it can still easily be saturated.

Re: Put.io

#123
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand the ethically shady bit but... how does it weaken the case against DRM? Surely it just continues to demonstrate how useless it is as a strategy?

He never said it was unethical. He said that doing illegal things with these torrents will only give the corporations/ones in power more leeway into getting politicians to pass laws that require DRM, violate our privacy, etc.

No he said it would weaken the case, I was wondering how.

If piracy stops people will say DRM works and they need more powers to really cement it in place. If piracy continues then people will say they need more DRM to stop it.

I cannot see how the existence of this site (or other torrent services) weakens the case against DRM.

Re: Put.io

#124
post #93

It seems as though the primary use case being discussed and implied is torrenting of media that is not legal (however ethical you feel it may be) to torrent in many countries. Please remember that when you do so, you weaken the case the rest of us have against the same laws you're ignoring, against DRM, against intrusions into our privacy, and against unfair ISP practices.

I understand the ethically shady bit but... how does it weaken the case against DRM? Surely it just continues to demonstrate how useless it is as a strategy?

As someone who just got his daily 40min of "TV" interrupted by amazon error AMZP-9, right in the middle of an episode... i'm now regretting not having downloaded a torrent ilegaly. The whole thing with torrent is not about saving money. I already have access to the content for free for paying amz prime. it is all about convenience. I was lied to that instant streaming was more convenient. Well, that until AMZP-9 popups in the middle of an episode and there is not way to watch it for the day.

With torrent, at least i'd know beforehand when setting my 40min* aside, that i will press play and see the damn content. So yeah, it does not weaken the case against DRM. i will agree that it strengthen it. Any engineer worth its salt would CACHE the damn stream. They can't because of DRM and silly contracts out of touch with reality.

(* and that is not counting the 5min that it takes to GET to the content on amazon player... piece of @!#)

Re: Put.io

#125
post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people mention ability to almost instantly stream the movie you want, but you can already do that using torrents. It's called sequential downloading. After buffering a few % of the whole torrent, you can start watching it with VLC (not sure if other players support it).

Sequential downloading is considered by many to be bad for the health of the torrent [1], and many developers refuse to implement it into their software/libraries [2]. [1] http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Sequential_downloading_is_bad [2] https://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/452

When used sparingly (ie on one torrent at a time) it s pretty much ok (since there is also a time-of-start randomization).

Re: Put.io

#126
post #121

Anyone else worried a list of all your torrens is kept in one place and can be tied directly back to you via you Credit card, unless you pay via bitcoins. They might not do anything with this data but when pressed by Mr big Coporation they may have no choice...

I am. Anyone know details about the founders? Are these guys trying to make a statement, or out to make a buck? In which case, selling the data about its users would be a great monetization model.

Like it matters...

It could have been founded my mother Theresa. It would still be a sweet place for the MAFIAA tugs to drop DMCA requests, or whatever those abuses are called nowadays, by the truckload on their heads.

Re: Put.io

#128

It seems as though the primary use case being discussed and implied is torrenting of media that is not legal (however ethical you feel it may be) to torrent in many countries. Please remember that when you do so, you weaken the case the rest of us have against the same laws you're ignoring, against DRM, against intrusions into our privacy, and against unfair ISP practices.

Megaupload had more legal use cases than this. They will have to stay under the radar, or else be busted by the feds like so many other torrent related sites. Kind of hard to do, when you'll inevitably end up with people torrenting using public trackers. Most people on private trackers have already figured out seedboxes, so if they do restrict to private trackers, they won't have much of a market. And if and not when they get raided, there will be plenty of incriminating evidence against their client base.

Re: Put.io

#129
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are seedbox providers which require very little knowledge or effort.

Took me 3 minutes to get put.io working. Name one seedbox provider that can be set up that quickly.

If you can use a ssh client:

1. go to your VPS control panel, span another vm

2. ssh to it

3. aptitude install transmission

done.

You don't even have to manage that box. not even install security updates if you don't want to.

Re: Put.io

#130
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, they used to offer a 10GB plan for $5 (which I've always been on: http://d.pr/i/WDEK ) . Apparently it's not available anymore! However, I was never asked to upgrade my plan (I didn't even know the plan I was on didn't exist anymore before today!)

I've also been on the five dollar plan for over a year. Also, never been asked to upgrade.

They only ask you to upgrade if they determine you've been using put.io for porn, and nothing but porn.
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