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Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by nolok »

mikeash wrote: post #33
fidotron wrote: post #2

It'll be interesting to see if they stick to this globally. The distinctly American prudishness regarding sex is almost a mirror image of large parts of the world with respect to cinematic violence. It's part of why you can be so sure these west coast companies will never monopolise the market in Germany, for example.

> The distinctly American prudishness regarding sex is almost a mirror image of large parts of the world with respect to cinematic violence. Don't American blockbusters, chock full of graphic violence, do quite well overseas in general? That seems to imply that the attitude towards cinematic violence is not the same at all.

> chock full of graphic violence

In France we don't have any special opposition to either sex or graphic violence in movies (if you check the minimal age required for some movies on imdb, you might be surprised by the amount of movies we put at 12 years old when other countries do 16 or 18), and Hollywood movie have become "tame" enough that dubber (movies are dubbed in french) often add swearing to make it sounds more realistic ...

Hell, even Die Hard turned PG-13.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by ChuckMcM »

girvo wrote: post #41
ChuckMcM wrote: post #31

So what ever happened to Ubuntu TV ? There seems to be like half a dozen different "Chromecast like" sticks in the Chinese market [1], clearly building these things isn't too hard to master. So where is the open stick version? [1] http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/923540954/2013_Latest_High...

Last time I spoke to some Canonical devs, it's still being worked on, with a target for 14.04 as an alpha I think. I'd love to have ARM Ubuntu-everything; ARM laptop, Ubuntu TV stick, Ubuntu phone that turns into a full desktop when plugged in... The tech is so nearly there. Sigh, one can dream :) EDIT: the main issue is ARMs lack of anything remotely similar to a BIOS. That's sort of changing, linux now has some stu…

I'm familiar with the BIOS issue, the devtree work is an interesting response to that. I wonder if they are waiting for 14.04 so that they can use Mir as the compositing platform.

As for protocols, good question. I see the streaming protocols which work reasonably well, I keep hoping for something like the DisplayLink protocol over ethernet with say WPA2, basically "connect" have it show up as a frame buffer to your client. Then some software on the stick so that you could slide back and forth to different "screens" ala the Amiga with each one being connected to a different device. But that is just speculating on what might be possible.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by napoleond »

ryandvm wrote: post #46
hawkharris wrote: post #20

In related news, developers are welcome to cast shootings, stabbings, explosions and other gory images. Graphic violence seems to enjoy greater protection than nudity, both culturally and legally, in the U.S. For example, there's the variable obscenity standard, which shields children from sexual images but not images of extreme violence: http://www.communitydefense.org/cdcdocs/obscenityman/ch10.pd...

It's true that on the surface, this schism seems absurd. However, I believe there's a little more nuance to it than you realize. Middle-class parents in a low crime neighborhood don't really have to worry about young Sally growing up to be a psychotic warrior because they to occasionally watch blockbuster movies like 300 or Saving Private Ryan. But if family movie night regularly included films like Eyes Wide Shut or…

Your use of a hypothetical scenario to defend puritan American values (with regards to sex on TV) strikes me as odd considering that its real-life variant exists... all of Europe, for example.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by GnwbZHiU »

harshreality wrote: post #35
gtaylor wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish software companies would stop trying to play moral police like this. It's so entirely subjective, and as you mentioned, moral standards vary wildly. But whatever. I'm sure this is going to keep kids from seeing "graphic" material, right? None of us ever went around our parents to see something we shouldn't have...

I doubt Google cares about keeping people from seeing nudity or porn. They probably care a lot more about the legal consequences of distributing porn apps, and the market consequences if religions try to get everyone to boycott Chromecast because it's sinful.

"and the market consequences if religions try to get everyone to boycott Chromecast because it's sinful."

I doubt Google cares about that. We live in a heavily secularized world today.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by GnwbZHiU »

gtaylor wrote: post #27
leobelle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "American prudishness" This is just name calling, and Americans get shit on for being culturally insensitive... Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. This isn't religiosity, I don't believe in the supernatural. It's just something I've come to learn as I've gotten older.

> Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. Is it OK for you to tell someone else what they are allowed to watch? That's the sticking point, and what is being done by Google (and so many others). You may not like porn, but there are a massive number that are OK with it. Is it right for you to impose your morals on others? Definitely don't take this as inflammatory,…

be cool mate. "pornography is awful stuff" is a statement, it's allright to express what people have in mind. No one force you anything.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by vanattab »

GnwbZHiU wrote: post #54
harshreality wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt Google cares about keeping people from seeing nudity or porn. They probably care a lot more about the legal consequences of distributing porn apps, and the market consequences if religions try to get everyone to boycott Chromecast because it's sinful.

"and the market consequences if religions try to get everyone to boycott Chromecast because it's sinful." I doubt Google cares about that. We live in a heavily secularized world today.

I am not religious but that does not mean I think its fine to watch porn. Much of the porn out there is absolutely disturbing (rape and what not) and the people who produce that grabage are the worest of the worest. Not all of it is that way of course but even the "classy" stuff is unhealthy in my opinion. I don't think the goverment should ban porn or anything but I have zero problems private companies banning it on their platforms.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by GnwbZHiU »

gtaylor wrote: post #27
leobelle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "American prudishness" This is just name calling, and Americans get shit on for being culturally insensitive... Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. This isn't religiosity, I don't believe in the supernatural. It's just something I've come to learn as I've gotten older.

> Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. Is it OK for you to tell someone else what they are allowed to watch? That's the sticking point, and what is being done by Google (and so many others). You may not like porn, but there are a massive number that are OK with it. Is it right for you to impose your morals on others? Definitely don't take this as inflammatory,…

On the other hand, you also can't impose Google (and others) to sell porn. you may like porn, but some sellers don't like it. so what's the problem?

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by sdegutis »

gtaylor wrote: post #27
leobelle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "American prudishness" This is just name calling, and Americans get shit on for being culturally insensitive... Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. This isn't religiosity, I don't believe in the supernatural. It's just something I've come to learn as I've gotten older.

> Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. Is it OK for you to tell someone else what they are allowed to watch? That's the sticking point, and what is being done by Google (and so many others). You may not like porn, but there are a massive number that are OK with it. Is it right for you to impose your morals on others? Definitely don't take this as inflammatory,…

> I personally (as an American) don't want my morals and beliefs forced on others

Impossible. At the end of the day, all laws and rules come from someone's morals and beliefs, regardless of who that is or what they've named those morals and beliefs.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by judk »

vanattab wrote: post #56
GnwbZHiU wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"and the market consequences if religions try to get everyone to boycott Chromecast because it's sinful." I doubt Google cares about that. We live in a heavily secularized world today.

I am not religious but that does not mean I think its fine to watch porn. Much of the porn out there is absolutely disturbing (rape and what not) and the people who produce that grabage are the worest of the worest. Not all of it is that way of course but even the "classy" stuff is unhealthy in my opinion. I don't think the goverment should ban porn or anything but I have zero problems private companies banning it on…

Banning porn is not the same as banning rape.

I hate the racist materialism of the Disney Channel, and the ecologically abusive NASCAR. Let's have Google ban that, shall we?

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by true_religion »

vanattab wrote: post #56
GnwbZHiU wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"and the market consequences if religions try to get everyone to boycott Chromecast because it's sinful." I doubt Google cares about that. We live in a heavily secularized world today.

I am not religious but that does not mean I think its fine to watch porn. Much of the porn out there is absolutely disturbing (rape and what not) and the people who produce that grabage are the worest of the worest. Not all of it is that way of course but even the "classy" stuff is unhealthy in my opinion. I don't think the goverment should ban porn or anything but I have zero problems private companies banning it on…

I don't usually do this but...

> I think its fine to watch porn.

and

> ... but even the "classy" stuff is unhealthy in my opinion.

Seem to be directly contradictory. Unless you're saying its a-okay to do unhealthy things every so often [which is also valid].

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