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Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by girvo »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #31

So what ever happened to Ubuntu TV ? There seems to be like half a dozen different "Chromecast like" sticks in the Chinese market [1], clearly building these things isn't too hard to master. So where is the open stick version? [1] http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/923540954/2013_Latest_High...

Last time I spoke to some Canonical devs, it's still being worked on, with a target for 14.04 as an alpha I think. I'd love to have ARM Ubuntu-everything; ARM laptop, Ubuntu TV stick, Ubuntu phone that turns into a full desktop when plugged in... The tech is so nearly there. Sigh, one can dream :)

EDIT: the main issue is ARMs lack of anything remotely similar to a BIOS. That's sort of changing, linux now has some stuff in the kernel to help target various ARM chipsets, but it's still difficult. Would be cool to see a kick starter for an ARM Ubuntu TV Stick -- I wonder what protocol would be best for "flinging" content to it?

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by signed0 »

cowpewter wrote: post #6

"No nudity" is a lot more strict than just "no porn". Does that mean that, for example, you could not make a Flickr app that lets you slideshow your photostream on your TV because Flickr allows artistic nudity? Or could you, but you'd have to restrict it to only show photos that are marked as 'Safe' in the safety filter? What about similar sites that don't have multiple content safety categories?

A better example is Netflix, which features movies that are rated NC-17.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by sremani »

humbledrone wrote: post #28
leobelle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "American prudishness" This is just name calling, and Americans get shit on for being culturally insensitive... Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. This isn't religiosity, I don't believe in the supernatural. It's just something I've come to learn as I've gotten older.

s/our minds/my own mind/ Unless you plan to cite some peer-reviewed research on that, you should probably not generalize to me and everyone else. If you find that porn is bad for you, by all means avoid it. But don't pretend that you know it's bad for other people too.

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/cambridge-university-brain-sc...

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by protomyth »

phenol wrote: post #13
greenyoda wrote: post #10

Looks like Google just lost a large percentage of the entertainment market: - The large percentage of people who like porn, plus... - The smaller (but outspoken) percentage of people who don't like to be told what content they're allowed to watch on the devices that they've purchased. We'll see if the market segment they're trying to attract with this policy (families with children, if I had to guess) will make up fo…

I seriously doubt the correlation between "liking porn" and "refusal to purchase a device that does not have official porn apps, especially considering I could stream porn from my phone or computer to my Chromecast just fine. In fact, if I'm being honest, I never install porn apps, even on devices that allow them, even if I intend on watching porn on them anyway.

The old VHS vs BetaMax might be a study in the subject, but I'm not sure if it's relevant these days.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by cloudwalking »

joesmo wrote: post #9

It's rules such as these (and all the other rules of app stores) that keep many developers from working with such limited platforms. Too bad Google doesn't focus on keeping malware out of its app store as much as it focuses on keeping porn out of it.

Sort of like the iOS App Store...?

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by ryandvm »

hawkharris wrote: post #20

In related news, developers are welcome to cast shootings, stabbings, explosions and other gory images. Graphic violence seems to enjoy greater protection than nudity, both culturally and legally, in the U.S. For example, there's the variable obscenity standard, which shields children from sexual images but not images of extreme violence: http://www.communitydefense.org/cdcdocs/obscenityman/ch10.pd...

It's true that on the surface, this schism seems absurd. However, I believe there's a little more nuance to it than you realize.

Middle-class parents in a low crime neighborhood don't really have to worry about young Sally growing up to be a psychotic warrior because they to occasionally watch blockbuster movies like 300 or Saving Private Ryan.

But if family movie night regularly included films like Eyes Wide Shut or Fifty Shades of Grey, one can certainly imagine it may influence a young adult's sexuality. And at a time when they are exceptionally impressionable and have particularly poor judgement no less. This is an unsettling thought to most parents.

That said, I do believe that Americans generally overexpose their children to bombastic, violent movies. I'm certain that this has something to do with our relatively higher violent crime rates. I'm not sure if our media shapes our collective consciousness or the other way around. I suspect it's both.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by richforrester »

thret wrote: post #36
richforrester wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally, during last year's annual Christmas Monopoly game, my mother-in-law (who was out the game early) flashed us a YouTube movie of a lady getting her privates waxed, asking what the f was up with YouTube for allowing this. I must say it quite surprised me this type of content was allowed/condoned.

Perhaps you'd also be surprised at how many girls injure themselves doing this by themselves, without instructional videos.

Nah, I believe that. I just expected Google would be a bit more anal about stuff like that.

And if you'd ask me about my opinion; I feel fine about them hosting it.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by joesmo »

cloudwalking wrote: post #45
joesmo wrote: post #9

It's rules such as these (and all the other rules of app stores) that keep many developers from working with such limited platforms. Too bad Google doesn't focus on keeping malware out of its app store as much as it focuses on keeping porn out of it.

Sort of like the iOS App Store...?

Yes. This is one area where I think having some rules in place can go a long way towards eliminating malware and extremely buggy software (sometimes, but better than nothing).

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by tiredoflurking »

humbledrone wrote: post #28
leobelle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "American prudishness" This is just name calling, and Americans get shit on for being culturally insensitive... Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. This isn't religiosity, I don't believe in the supernatural. It's just something I've come to learn as I've gotten older.

s/our minds/my own mind/ Unless you plan to cite some peer-reviewed research on that, you should probably not generalize to me and everyone else. If you find that porn is bad for you, by all means avoid it. But don't pretend that you know it's bad for other people too.

The "Report of the Surgeon General's Workshop on Pornography and Public Health" in 1987 identifies a clear and present danger in pornography, among other studies.

Re: Google makes it official: no porn apps for Chromecast

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Post by yetanotherphd »

leobelle wrote: post #19
fidotron wrote: post #2

It'll be interesting to see if they stick to this globally. The distinctly American prudishness regarding sex is almost a mirror image of large parts of the world with respect to cinematic violence. It's part of why you can be so sure these west coast companies will never monopolise the market in Germany, for example.

> "American prudishness" This is just name calling, and Americans get shit on for being culturally insensitive... Pornography is awful stuff. It exploits the way our minds work, and ruins peace and happiness. This isn't religiosity, I don't believe in the supernatural. It's just something I've come to learn as I've gotten older.

Porn is wonderful and liberating. Booth babes are degrading and misogynistic.
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