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Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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It's interesting seeing Google as a grown up company, with many of the flaws they acquired early on still intact and at Google scale. You can be spending $100ks per month on adwords and still not have a competent person to call when you need help. EVen if you do, they don't know much and can't do much. Realistically, it's not much better than an outsourced call centre and much worse than the far less profitable Big A…

This. Google needs one Jobsian hard-ass in charge of product marketing/quality to keep this swarm of ADD mayhem under control and set priorities. Around Android 2.3 I was a huge fanboy because the platform had so much potential. Now? The platform still has so much potential, and I'm only a fan because it's an open-source platform with real consumer adoption - not because I think it's actually good . Microsoft shovele…

That isn't the Google way. The need someone tapping the right data on audience feedback, with the right internal priority to execute on solutions.

Because failing your customers is basically evil. We already have enough faceless companies.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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>Thank you for your note. We have reviewed your appeal and will not be reinstating your app. This decision is final and we will not be responding to any additional emails regarding this removal

Sounds familiar. I got a similar response years back when I emailed them after they decided that I had committed click fraud (I hadn't) and closed my AdSense account, taking all of my ad revenue with it.

Good to hear that Google still hasn't learned how to treat people.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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I know Google's policy on this, but I completely understand where the developer is coming from. Google has been taking a collective shit on every developer out of its list of seller countries[0], which is ridiculously short and hasn't been expanded in god knows how long, and even then, there were only a handful of countries added. On Google's page about seller countries they say: "We're working hard to add more count…

It's interesting seeing Google as a grown up company, with many of the flaws they acquired early on still intact and at Google scale. You can be spending $100ks per month on adwords and still not have a competent person to call when you need help. EVen if you do, they don't know much and can't do much. Realistically, it's not much better than an outsourced call centre and much worse than the far less profitable Big A…

As much as I love Google, they still try to act like are in the startup phase.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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I keep wondering why indie app publishing services haven't popped up to handle this. Publish your app to Google's store through them, under their label(s) and they push 70-95% of the sales revenue back to the developer. Sure it's not a great deal for the developer, but it's a way around the country limits.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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I know Google's policy on this, but I completely understand where the developer is coming from. Google has been taking a collective shit on every developer out of its list of seller countries[0], which is ridiculously short and hasn't been expanded in god knows how long, and even then, there were only a handful of countries added. On Google's page about seller countries they say: "We're working hard to add more count…

> Google has been taking a collective shit The biggest issue with anything Google related is absolute lack of communication/transparency. They have been baning web pages from Google AdSense and never told the owners why, without any way to appeal decision. The oracle has spoken, You are not worthy. Take this automatic reply message based on some words from your email.

> Take this automatic reply message based on some words from your email.

And hopefully you didn't make the mistake of publishing things with your personal google/gmail username, because that might get permanently closed with no recourse.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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It's google's turf. They can screw everyone including themselves and enjoy through the whole process.

Either submit yourself to Google's rules or move on to another platform where someone else will eventually and likely will screw you up too.

So use other man's platform for what's it good for. Even better - build the better platform yourself and become the king of a game.

Until then - you're the little servant in someone else's kingdom.

Bitching is futile.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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There's a very clear difference between native apps and web apps in my mind. EDIT: I should make very clear to non-developers out there that, with a native app, you're able to display a web browser without a URL bar or any other UI, which makes it exceedingly easy to trick people into thinking that they're at an official PayPal site or other shenanigans that the unscrupulous dev wants to try. More information: https:…

> EDIT: I should make very clear to non-developers out there that, with a native app, you're able to display a web browser without a URL bar or any other UI, which makes it exceedingly easy to trick people into thinking that they're at an official PayPal site or other shenanigans that the unscrupulous dev wants to try. Nothing's stopping a non-standard browser (Opera, Firefox, etc.) from doing that, and they're permi…

are you trying to miss the point?

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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It's a lose-lose situation for Google to do such a thing. They're not making an argument; they're making policy. I'm under the impression that the policy isn't up for discussion, in which case it's wise for Google not to pay people to reiterate what we already know.

Why should moderate disclosure be a lose-lose situation? If Google has a problem with entering a country that is dependent on the country's laws or policies, explaining the problem to the local citizens could lead to public discourse about the laws and, eventually, change. Zero disclosure is a winning strategy only because people will use their imaginations and think there are valid reasons for the progress being so…

In context, it was clear that Schmidt was referring to doing "it" using Google services, since Google is subject to the Patriot act, etc.
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