I'm confused. Lets say I have a web app where users are billed monthly through PayPal. Now I want to release an Android version of my app that has a 'Login' button but not a 'Sign Up' button (that is, sign up can only be done through the website). Can I keep PayPal as my sole billing mechanism?
Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Each one of those ton of things have been solved by Apple, Samsung and BlackBerry in many of the countries Google doesn't support. They can copy what any one of these 3 did if they really wanted to help developers.
Can they? What if the process is patented?
By 3 different corporations?
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> "Official app stores are quasi-monopolies and need government control." They aren't and they don't. They are a store like any other and the store owner can decide not to sell your products without a good reason if they want to. On Android there are several alternative stores (most notably Amazon) not to mention apps can be installed directly by downloading the APK without any device modification. >> "Think about a…
>> They aren't and they don't. They are a store like any other and the store owner can decide not to sell your products without a good reason if they want to. On Android there are several alternative stores (most notably Amazon) not to mention apps can be installed directly by downloading the APK without any device modification. It's the same as with internet explorer on windows back in the day. google play is preins…
>> "google play is preinstalled"
Device manufactures can choose to install or not install it. e.g. Kindle Fire comes with the Amazon App Store, not the Play Store. Therefore consumers can choose a device with or without the Google Play Store.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#124And people claim the world is flat. It is not for us that need to jump through hoops just to be on the same 'playing level' with our compatriots overseas. As a Nigerian, you cannot dare build any SaaS application because gateways that support recurring billing do not support Nigeria (and of course many other countries) Basically, the fellow with this problem cannot build an Angry Birds without moving countries or jum…
Offtopic: Isn't 2checkout & its recurring module avilable for Nigerian merchants?
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#125I know Google's policy on this, but I completely understand where the developer is coming from. Google has been taking a collective shit on every developer out of its list of seller countries[0], which is ridiculously short and hasn't been expanded in god knows how long, and even then, there were only a handful of countries added. On Google's page about seller countries they say: "We're working hard to add more count…
There's two seperate issues here:
First Google doesn't do developer or consumer support. They don't care and whenever they've tried it's been a complete disaster.
Second, things that don't directly benefit social are very low priority.
The Android team is very secretive about everything they do and hardly ever explains their actions, even internally. There was some hope that things would change with Sundar Pichai but he's a bad as Andy Rubin, if not worse.
The way this type of issue is typically solved is by contacting a Google employee and asking them to escalate internally. Don't know any Googler? You're SOL.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No, you're fucking not working hard, you added the last ones a year and a half ago. I'm not even a Google fanboy, but what do you know about the challenges that Google might be facing? It's a really strong accusation to say that a company is not working hard just because you can't have exactly what you want. Last I checked, neither Google nor Apple make guarantees about how much of a living a developer is going to…
I can assume what challenges Google is facing based on how successful other companies in the space are in providing the same service, namely Microsoft and Apple. Google: 32 countries Apple: 90 countries (probably more now, info from 2012) Microsoft: 127 countries Yes, Microsoft and Apple had a head start, but the difference is just way too big, and Google hasn't moved that number in a year and a half. I don't want Go…
> Google: 32 countries Apple: 90 countries (probably more now, info from 2012) Microsoft: 127 countries
Or the 196(?) countries the Amazon Appstore supports.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=2...
(* It appears that apps for China and, for whatever reason, Germany must go through amazon.cn and .de, respectively, instead of .com)
EDIT: I count 155 countries supported by the iTunes App Store, according to
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#127Dare I say it but when a company has a certain level of dominance in a "channel" then they need be subject to regulation. A channel might be any means of reaching customers whether a telecomms provider, a form of media, or in this case, a device app store. The total control a gate-keeper has on the survival of tangentially related companies by eliminating their access to customers is simply not right. They should be…
Yeah none of that has to do with android. You can easily install third party apps or entire other marketplaces.
IOS on the other hand does have that issue.
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#128TLDR: Application banned for not using a Google-blessed payment option which Google has not enabled for the country in which the developer actually lives. In that case I guess the only other option is going completely free? How many developers will be willing to accept that position? Do Google really think they can create a thriving ecosystem and market if they start throwing around inconsistent and conflicting rules…
The main problem with Google is their lack of customer care. I had my Adsense account rejected a few years back for no reason (there was no bad activity) and when I appealed, their response was the same "We have reviewed your appeal and can't do anything about it."
It happened to me. I try to forget it to avoid uncovering the rage buried deep my brain :)
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#129If I were him and the application was worthwhile. I'd open a shell company in another country that is Google approved, then release the application under a new name, under that company. Sure it means jumping through a few hoops to satisfy Google, but it's certainly doable.
Can anyone provide tips on how to best do this? Are there countries with lightweight bureucracy that let you do this over the web and without spending much money up front? There might be a niche for a publisher company here.
UK Companies house has a pretty good web form: https://ewf.companieshouse.gov.uk//runpage?page=welcome ; there's a £15 annual accounts filing fee and extremely minimal bureaucracy.
Getting a UK business bank account might be harder. I've heard of people having trouble with this even within the UK.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is, that the developer can't use the Payment Processor on the Market, because Google will not allow him to use it (he is from the "wrong country").
Shouldn't the developer have known this through reading the rules of the store BEFORE he/she developer the app? If you can't be bothered to do due diligence before making such a big business decision you aren't equipped to run a business.
You're being downvoted, but you're right, when you publish an app on the store you legally sign a contract, and the contract specifies what you can and cannot do.
Don't like the rules? Don't publish on the play store and let people download the app from you website. It's perfectly doable.
Moreover, an official warning was issued more than an year ago reminding play store developers that all IAP should go thought the play store AND more recently, another famous app with more than 150000 users was removed for using PayPal for payment.
Edit: copying a comment from reddit: Go to a store and put your homemade apple pies on their shelves with a PayPal QR code and see if that store too becomes "unfair".