Perhaps try porting your app to Sailfish (essentially Linux + QT5) and try the Jolla shop :)
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Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
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Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#42This is a business opportunity for those, who live in supported countries. Sell apps on Google Play for people living in unsupported countries, and agree that you take some % of payments, i.e. act as a distributor.
I believe it should not be difficult to formulate such relationship that it will be legal, transparent and reliable for both parties.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#43I feel it's an obvious problem that apps that allow IAP are listed as free. Has google or apple fixed this yet? When browsing for apps there you may see a top app being free and another costing $1. You pick the "free" one and it turns out it is useless without an IAP whereas the $1 app perhaps would not. It turns out the free app costs $2 in order to function as well as the $1 app. The consumer friendly thing to do w…
The two version solution (free/premium) doesn't allow sharing ratings. Developers don't like that, because they want their free uptake to give higher rating to their premium option.
Splitting the options up would make perfect sense if the two apps are grouped up in some way.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#44I know Google's policy on this, but I completely understand where the developer is coming from. Google has been taking a collective shit on every developer out of its list of seller countries[0], which is ridiculously short and hasn't been expanded in god knows how long, and even then, there were only a handful of countries added. On Google's page about seller countries they say: "We're working hard to add more count…
> No, you're fucking not working hard, you added the last ones a year and a half ago.
I'm not even a Google fanboy, but what do you know about the challenges that Google might be facing? It's a really strong accusation to say that a company is not working hard just because you can't have exactly what you want.
Last I checked, neither Google nor Apple make guarantees about how much of a living a developer is going to make from their platforms. You're not getting shit on; you're getting impatient because the gravy train that you're banking on hasn't poured itself all over you. If you want to make money, stop waiting for other people to do the dirty work for you.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#45Official app stores are quasi-monopolies and need government control. Think about all the time and work the developer has invested. And can't be possible for google to effectively keep him from selling the app just because they feel like it. If they have an app distribution monopoly, developers have a right to publish their app there. It is not a favor google grants. This is something laws have to enforce as companie…
>> "Official app stores are quasi-monopolies and need government control."
They aren't and they don't. They are a store like any other and the store owner can decide not to sell your products without a good reason if they want to. On Android there are several alternative stores (most notably Amazon) not to mention apps can be installed directly by downloading the APK without any device modification.
>> "Think about all the time and work the developer has invested."
The developer made this business decision knowing fully the risks involved.
>> "And can't be possible for google to effectively keep him from selling the app just because they feel like it. If they have an app distribution monopoly, developers have a right to publish their app there. It is not a favor google grants."
See my first point. Google is a store and can reject you for no reason. There are several alternatives to selling through their store. It is a favour Google grants and you have no right to be there.
>> "This is something laws have to enforce as companies like google demonstrably harm this right on their own. It's either this or opening up the app store concept."
Again it is not a right and the app store 'concept' is open as anyone can create their own store and several have. You can also distribute without a store through your own website. Or you can create a web app. There are plenty of ways for consumers to get your product that do not require Google.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#46I feel it's an obvious problem that apps that allow IAP are listed as free. Has google or apple fixed this yet? When browsing for apps there you may see a top app being free and another costing $1. You pick the "free" one and it turns out it is useless without an IAP whereas the $1 app perhaps would not. It turns out the free app costs $2 in order to function as well as the $1 app. The consumer friendly thing to do w…
As a developer I feel this pain as well. On the WinRT platform you actually have the "trial version"-flag which allows the user to test it before they pay. This feature is useless in the same sense as paid app is, since everyone is going for the freemium model anyway to conceal the cost of the app.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#47I know Google's policy on this, but I completely understand where the developer is coming from. Google has been taking a collective shit on every developer out of its list of seller countries[0], which is ridiculously short and hasn't been expanded in god knows how long, and even then, there were only a handful of countries added. On Google's page about seller countries they say: "We're working hard to add more count…
> Google has been taking a collective shit The biggest issue with anything Google related is absolute lack of communication/transparency. They have been baning web pages from Google AdSense and never told the owners why, without any way to appeal decision. The oracle has spoken, You are not worthy. Take this automatic reply message based on some words from your email.
> They have been baning web pages from Google AdSense and never told the owners why, without any way to appeal decision.
This is actually a huge problem. But google does not care about the supply side, they have plenty of inventory, they only care about the demand side.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#48There go my idea for profitability out of the window. I am from Brazil, here the only way to pay for Google play stuff is with international credit card, that is quite uncommon here, the result is that here in Brazil I have the highest downloads, but still one of the last places in gross income, the conversion ratio is terrible because people don't figure how to pay. With Google forcing devs to use its billing system…
I am from India and credit cards are still not that mainstream here. And it is same situation. Everyone has a debit card but Apple and Google both refuse to accept them for their stores (last time I checked, same with Windows Phone, though Microsoft at least accepts them for Windows, Office and Skydrive stuff!)
>> "Everyone has a debit card but Apple and Google both refuse to accept them for their stores"
I use debit cards with both stores and have for years. I used to use Maestro (which is being fazed out but still accepted) and now I use Visa Debit.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#49I feel it's an obvious problem that apps that allow IAP are listed as free. Has google or apple fixed this yet? When browsing for apps there you may see a top app being free and another costing $1. You pick the "free" one and it turns out it is useless without an IAP whereas the $1 app perhaps would not. It turns out the free app costs $2 in order to function as well as the $1 app. The consumer friendly thing to do w…
The two version solution (free/premium) doesn't allow sharing ratings. Developers don't like that, because they want their free uptake to give higher rating to their premium option. Splitting the options up would make perfect sense if the two apps are grouped up in some way.
I can see that from the developers' perspective the two app solution is bad (also from a maintenance perspective etc.)
For users it's also bad because if upgrading is switching you are likely to lose the data (settings, game progress), but since I'd rather do that it feels like the freemium thing must be horribly broken.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#50The relevant part of the Developer Distribution Agreement appears to be 3.3: "Such free trials for Products are encouraged. However, if you want to collect fees after the free trial expires, you must collect all fees for the full version of the Product through the Payment Processor on the Market." http://play.google.com/about/developer-distribution-agreemen...
The point is, that the developer can't use the Payment Processor on the Market, because Google will not allow him to use it (he is from the "wrong country").
Shouldn't the developer have known this through reading the rules of the store BEFORE he/she developer the app? If you can't be bothered to do due diligence before making such a big business decision you aren't equipped to run a business.