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Nvidia submits patches to open source driver
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I only have limited experience with AMD chips: helping friends and family get Ubuntu running on their desktops and laptops. I have been sticking to Nvidia for the past 10 years whenever a Linux box is involved. I have to say that while the AMD/ATI OSS drivers do work, getting them working can be an exercise in the mystical arts. The most recent issue was getting my brother's HP laptop to run Ubuntu. The OS installed…
That's odd. What laptop was that? There really shouldn't be any reason for all but newest ATI GPUs to not work out of box. With nvidia the terrible stability and kernel upgrade hassles plus the need to externally install the drivers means it should be much uglier an experience than out of box ATI OSS drivers. Anyway as long as it works...
> means that normal users shouldn't really need to install binary drivers if they have a recent ATI GPU.
> There really shouldn't be any reason for all but newest ATI GPUs to not work out of box.
So you don't have any problems if you have a recent ATI GPU, unless you have a recent ATI GPU?
Re: Nvidia submits patches to open source driver
#24On a somewhat related (non-mobile) note, I really regret buying my AMD 5870 three years ago. Things have changed quite a bit in that nvidia has done some serious work on their Linux binary drivers, while AMD's has been utterly unimpressive, if not embarrassingly bad. I understand that Linux has been a lesser priority for both companies, which is understandable. It's not going to make them the truckloads of money that…
> I understand that Linux has been a lesser priority for both companies, which is understandable. It's not going to make them the truckloads of money that the rest of their market segments will.
Actually, they are both theoretically very interested in the Linux market because of their GPGPUs. Windows is pretty much unheard of in scientific computing (in November it powered a whopping 2 of the 500 comuters in top500). AMD does offer a good range of development tools for their CPUs; I haven't worked on their GPUs, but I've heard nothing but complaints about it.
Re: Nvidia submits patches to open source driver
#25On a somewhat related (non-mobile) note, I really regret buying my AMD 5870 three years ago. Things have changed quite a bit in that nvidia has done some serious work on their Linux binary drivers, while AMD's has been utterly unimpressive, if not embarrassingly bad. I understand that Linux has been a lesser priority for both companies, which is understandable. It's not going to make them the truckloads of money that…
> I understand that Linux has been a lesser priority for both companies, which is understandable. It's not going to make them the truckloads of money that the rest of their market segments will. Actually, they are both theoretically very interested in the Linux market because of their GPGPUs. Windows is pretty much unheard of in scientific computing (in November it powered a whopping 2 of the 500 comuters in top500).…
NVidia is probably not targeting top500, so is focusing on the 99% of market.
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#26Arghhh, all mobile! Ah well least its progress!
Re: Nvidia submits patches to open source driver
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has bought both brands recently-ish, I have to say I would VASTLY prefer AMD over Nvidia for Linux compatible graphics cards. I found that the community-provided AMD drivers where leagues ahead of Nvidia proprietary and community drivers (in terms of shear usability). Here's a thread where I test my Nvidia 670 and my AMD 6870 in Linux. I explain why I like one over the other: http://www.reddit.com/r/li…
The community drivers are pretty limited if you need to drive more than two monitors or need to work with non-trivial OpenGL applications or games. Neither open source driver has very good power management, either. They both leave a lot to desire.
For what I see, future is bright on AMD side for those features. I don't follow the news closely, but phoronix reports on the subject have change from a long string of steady bad support and performance to a seemingly constant progress since last year.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I only have limited experience with AMD chips: helping friends and family get Ubuntu running on their desktops and laptops. I have been sticking to Nvidia for the past 10 years whenever a Linux box is involved. I have to say that while the AMD/ATI OSS drivers do work, getting them working can be an exercise in the mystical arts. The most recent issue was getting my brother's HP laptop to run Ubuntu. The OS installed…
That's odd. What laptop was that? There really shouldn't be any reason for all but newest ATI GPUs to not work out of box. With nvidia the terrible stability and kernel upgrade hassles plus the need to externally install the drivers means it should be much uglier an experience than out of box ATI OSS drivers. Anyway as long as it works...
I have been using nVidia cards on Linux since the GeForce 2. I have never had any problems with their driver (apart from misconfiguration by me before X.org started autodetecting screens/GPUs and xorg.conf etc. was deprecated).
Re: Nvidia submits patches to open source driver
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I understand that Linux has been a lesser priority for both companies, which is understandable. It's not going to make them the truckloads of money that the rest of their market segments will. Actually, they are both theoretically very interested in the Linux market because of their GPGPUs. Windows is pretty much unheard of in scientific computing (in November it powered a whopping 2 of the 500 comuters in top500).…
NVidia is probably not targeting top500, so is focusing on the 99% of market.
> NVidia is probably not targeting top500, so is focusing on the 99% of market.
Nvidia definitely targets the Top 500 and is currently (Nov 2013) providing the GPUs for #2 and #6 in the Top 10 of the list and dozens more lower down the list. There's a lot of money in supercomputers, in the Top 500 scale and smaller installations too.
Re: Nvidia submits patches to open source driver
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has bought both brands recently-ish, I have to say I would VASTLY prefer AMD over Nvidia for Linux compatible graphics cards. I found that the community-provided AMD drivers where leagues ahead of Nvidia proprietary and community drivers (in terms of shear usability). Here's a thread where I test my Nvidia 670 and my AMD 6870 in Linux. I explain why I like one over the other: http://www.reddit.com/r/li…
The community drivers are pretty limited if you need to drive more than two monitors or need to work with non-trivial OpenGL applications or games. Neither open source driver has very good power management, either. They both leave a lot to desire.
I found the open source driver situation to be quite good with AMD. I was able to play non-trivial games (TF2 and Dota2) and use two monitors quite well. In fact, the open source AMD drivers had better multi monitor support then either the proprietary or the community Nvidia drivers.