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Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

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Re: Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

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This doesn't take into account rotation though :( See http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/Classes/MATH198/townsend/in... for including rotation.

Also doesn't take into account the direction of the nap of the cloth on the table - balls rolling 'up' will travel differently from those rolling 'down'.

Would this also mean that the speed of the balls has to be taken into account? The differing effects of friction on the surface would surely alter as the balls move & spin slower?

Re: Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

#13

This doesn't take into account rotation though :( See http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/Classes/MATH198/townsend/in... for including rotation.

Also doesn't take into account the direction of the nap of the cloth on the table - balls rolling 'up' will travel differently from those rolling 'down'. Would this also mean that the speed of the balls has to be taken into account? The differing effects of friction on the surface would surely alter as the balls move & spin slower?

What about air friction? And the the Coriolis effect? And does observing the balls cause their wave function to collapse? :P

Re: Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also doesn't take into account the direction of the nap of the cloth on the table - balls rolling 'up' will travel differently from those rolling 'down'. Would this also mean that the speed of the balls has to be taken into account? The differing effects of friction on the surface would surely alter as the balls move & spin slower?

What about air friction? And the the Coriolis effect? And does observing the balls cause their wave function to collapse? :P

Yes! We demand to know whether the pool table was in the northern or southern hemisphere :)

Re: Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe MathOverflow - a formerly non-SE site - targets graduate-level questions, while math.SE has a broader target user base.

Yeah, MathOverflow was a SE 1.0 site (when we had white-label Stack Exchange networks rather than internally made ones) which has since been added into the real network with the SE 2.0 rollout. Math.SE and MathOverflow seem to function well together even they though have similar areas of interests.

Could you explain the expression, "white-label?" First time I've heard it.

Re: Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, MathOverflow was a SE 1.0 site (when we had white-label Stack Exchange networks rather than internally made ones) which has since been added into the real network with the SE 2.0 rollout. Math.SE and MathOverflow seem to function well together even they though have similar areas of interests.

Could you explain the expression, "white-label?" First time I've heard it.

This gives a decent explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-label_product

Re: Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about air friction? And the the Coriolis effect? And does observing the balls cause their wave function to collapse? :P

Yes! We demand to know whether the pool table was in the northern or southern hemisphere :)

Tut tut! You're forgetting that the earth is an oblate spheroid, and gravity exerts greater downward force at the poles, than near the equator.

We also need to know the precise latitude of the pool table!

Re: Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, MathOverflow was a SE 1.0 site (when we had white-label Stack Exchange networks rather than internally made ones) which has since been added into the real network with the SE 2.0 rollout. Math.SE and MathOverflow seem to function well together even they though have similar areas of interests.

Could you explain the expression, "white-label?" First time I've heard it.

The Wikipedia article explains the concept, but basically the initial business plan for Stack Exchange was to sell the software to companies / groups that wanted to run their own system versus the all in-house management we have today.

Re: Perfectly centered break of a perfectly aligned pool ball rack

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Can anyone explain the "rules" for a 3-way simultaneous colision? Freshman physics only covered collisions between 2 objects, and I've never figured out how to generalize it.

Right, with 3 balls you can't just do an impulse calculation like you can with 2 (too many unknowns, too few equations).

The author is simulating the collision as an event which happens gradually over an (admittedly short) period of time, using a differential equation, instead of something that happens all at once. That's why he has to talk about the elasticity model he's using, F ∝ (2-d)^1.5, and how the results vary when you change it.

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