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Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by darklajid »

zokier wrote: post #40
pgeorgi wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://archive.org/details/snowden_interview_en

I must say I'm becoming increasingly disappointed about archive.orgs lax copyright policies. Becoming a treasure trove of pirated material really eats its legitimacy in my eyes.

I'm having trouble if the ARD (or parts of it) starts dicking around with copyright restrictions. They receive a huge amount of funding from mandatory payments of all German households (you can try to avoid that if you're a poor student or poor, period, but usually you're (supposed to be) paying - by law).

It's really close to a tax to pay for their content, their infrastructure. Which makes sense in a way for me, I do want broadcasters that don't need to rely on 'what the masses want' alone to pick their content, ending with Big Brother and brainless idiotic stuff everywhere.

But there's power and there's responsibility. If you take money from ~every~ citizen/household, then you better release that stuff with a decent license.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by jpdus »

greenyoda wrote: post #29

I highly recommend watching this interview, in which Snowden clearly explains his motives for doing what he did and describes the scope of the data collection carried out by the NSA and its allied foreign intelligence agencies. While I've followed this story quite extensively, this is first time I've actually watched an interview with Snowden, and I was very impressed with his intelligence, thoughtfulness, depth of k…

That's exactly what I thought after watching the interview and that's why it is so sad that most of the American public will never see it..

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by d0ugie »

A blackout ordered by the government, huh. Quite an allegation.

But don't forget to consider that rather than the American media, not a small bunch to corral easily, conspiring at the government's request not to report on something "juicy," that the media may have simply had things to cover that they felt were juicier or were perhaps spooked by the incendiary nature of the interview and engaged in self-censorship. And that it's possible American media has a different take on what's juicy and what's become old news versus foreign media.

Also consider that with the Internet it's not easy anymore to effectively create a media blackout over something not much worse than what's already been revealed by the media without repercussions. Plenty of hungry journalists looking to make a heroic name for themselves by defying such an order in the name of freedom.

Maybe it's true, but it's also pretty far-fetched, don't immediately presume it's true.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by ck2 »

DanBC wrote: post #42
spenvo wrote: post #3

Try searching CNN for "Snowden Interview" and there is NO mention of it. Same with MSNBC's search - nothing about this interview in the results. Also, scroll down to user "Nostromo's" counter (claiming the media did cover the story) w/links and then my reply. This kind of blatant dereliction of duty in US journalism (IMHO) presages the governments' plans for controlling the (M)essage on websites. One can only assume…

MSNBC were interviewing a US politician (congress woman) about the Snowden leaks and about NSA reform. They interrupted that interview for some important breaking news. Justin Bieber had been arrested for drag racing his car. http://youtu.be/GH68bSJXGE8

MSNBC has had some good Snowden coverage over the longer weekend shows which are higher quality.

Their hourly shows each day are getting to be more and more garbage.

Chris Hayes had a fantastic long-form weekend show on MSNBC. Then they moved him to the hour format on a daily basis and his show went to garbage too as they have him pushing whatever the hype of the day is. And Rachel Maddow now has maybe one good show a month and the rest are just petty garbage ("oh look someone said a word wrong or misspelled something - let's talk about that for ten minutes")

What's crazy is most of their anchors are really smart and knowledgeable when you see them work freeform like in an interview. But start scripting them and giving them "must reads" and they all turn into blathering corporate idiots.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by pavanky »

spenvo wrote: post #3

Try searching CNN for "Snowden Interview" and there is NO mention of it. Same with MSNBC's search - nothing about this interview in the results. Also, scroll down to user "Nostromo's" counter (claiming the media did cover the story) w/links and then my reply. This kind of blatant dereliction of duty in US journalism (IMHO) presages the governments' plans for controlling the (M)essage on websites. One can only assume…

Before you go witch hunting go read this. http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1wddfp/us_media_bl...

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by zokier »

darklajid wrote: post #71
zokier wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must say I'm becoming increasingly disappointed about archive.orgs lax copyright policies. Becoming a treasure trove of pirated material really eats its legitimacy in my eyes.

I'm having trouble if the ARD (or parts of it) starts dicking around with copyright restrictions. They receive a huge amount of funding from mandatory payments of all German households (you can try to avoid that if you're a poor student or poor, period, but usually you're (supposed to be) paying - by law). It's really close to a tax to pay for their content, their infrastructure. Which makes sense in a way for me, I…

But the content is freely viewable in Germany, isn't it? Imho that would easily cover their mandate to the people (who are financing them)

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by lispm »

dogweather wrote: post #25

We need to keep our paranoia in check. That article is B.S. — wrong on all the verifiable points. And the rest is just random guesses. I went and checked the German news (I'm American but lived in Germany 5 years, and am still fluent) and it turns out that ARD screwed the pooch on this one: the two most respected media outlets in Germany are pissed off and have written about ARD's shoddy editing and refusal to provid…

The US media simply could have bought the rights.

They usually pay millions for some pictures with an ape and some prominent person, or for photos of an enhanced ass married to some other guy.

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