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Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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Is Ubuntu replacing everything above the Kernel one piece at a time?

Nautilus, like any other software of the GNOME project is subject to the "unexpected" changes by the GNOME team... as when they decided to remove the type-ahead-find feature. As long as the Ubuntu team create better software and replace "bad pieces" I'm with them.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

#22
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I liked the days when Ubuntu was a nice, simple distro that I could recommend to beginners. Nowadays, every desktop distro is becoming more and more of an "island". The main "alternative" to Ubuntu, Linux Mint, is also replacing pretty much every piece of the OS with its own (NIH). I would actually like for there to be a nice, simple distro that anybody could use, with only general, vanilla Linux software.

Try Xubuntu. The interface is about boring and rock solid as it gets - it hasn't changed in years. And you still get Ubuntu's excellent hardware support.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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post #13

I liked the days when Ubuntu was a nice, simple distro that I could recommend to beginners. Nowadays, every desktop distro is becoming more and more of an "island". The main "alternative" to Ubuntu, Linux Mint, is also replacing pretty much every piece of the OS with its own (NIH). I would actually like for there to be a nice, simple distro that anybody could use, with only general, vanilla Linux software.

Try elementary OS.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

#24
post #4

I don't like the NIH syndrome, but I like using what's probably the most popular distro and especially the software variety in the community PPAs. So what's the best way to get a more vanilla Linux desktop experience without losing the convenience of the Ubuntu PPA ecosystem? Use a Ubuntu remix? Can you use PPAs with Debian? Or do you not even need them with the cutting-edge Debian variant (whatever it's called again…

I use Ubuntu without any desktop, using the dwm window manager. My "file manager" is the bash shell. None of their interface experiments affect me, but I get the advantages of the drivers and PPAs. I haven't yet seen anything in any desktop environment that interests me; and running this way leads to low memory overhead and a very snappy response on older hardware.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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post #13

I liked the days when Ubuntu was a nice, simple distro that I could recommend to beginners. Nowadays, every desktop distro is becoming more and more of an "island". The main "alternative" to Ubuntu, Linux Mint, is also replacing pretty much every piece of the OS with its own (NIH). I would actually like for there to be a nice, simple distro that anybody could use, with only general, vanilla Linux software.

Try debian.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

#26
I bet it's gonna be a file manager useable by power users with built in terminal, full copypastable path shown by default, ability to navigate inside of zip files as if they're directories, tree view, directory bookmarks, etc...

Ah wait, no, that are the features of file managers of 10 years ago, after that they only got dumbed down to target regular joe. Yay progress.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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post #4

I don't like the NIH syndrome, but I like using what's probably the most popular distro and especially the software variety in the community PPAs. So what's the best way to get a more vanilla Linux desktop experience without losing the convenience of the Ubuntu PPA ecosystem? Use a Ubuntu remix? Can you use PPAs with Debian? Or do you not even need them with the cutting-edge Debian variant (whatever it's called again…

I switched to Arch Linux after the Amazon fiasco and can only say I wish I did sooner. It's marvelous, and if you think Ubuntu's PPAs are good, you need to see the AUR. I think I've done the `./configure && make && sudo make install` thing literally once on this system, and it wasn't because the tool wasn't in the AUR, but because I needed special compile flags with vim.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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post #4

I don't like the NIH syndrome, but I like using what's probably the most popular distro and especially the software variety in the community PPAs. So what's the best way to get a more vanilla Linux desktop experience without losing the convenience of the Ubuntu PPA ecosystem? Use a Ubuntu remix? Can you use PPAs with Debian? Or do you not even need them with the cutting-edge Debian variant (whatever it's called again…

Arch Linux might be what you're looking for, if you're willing to take the plunge. You get a bare bones machine when you install it, and you make your own desktop experience. You can install GNOME or KDE, or something more lightweight like openbox, or a tiling wm like i3 or xmonad.

What you want, though, is something like PPAs. You're looking for the Arch User Repository [1]. You can install some helper like Yaourt [2] and run something like `yaourt -S leagueoflegends` to get user-contributed packages.

The other thing that really does it for me with Arch is the excellent wiki, which documents nearly everything you'd ever want to do with Arch Linux.

[1] http://aur.archlinux.org/

[2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Yaourt

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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I bet it's gonna be a file manager useable by power users with built in terminal, full copypastable path shown by default, ability to navigate inside of zip files as if they're directories, tree view, directory bookmarks, etc... Ah wait, no, that are the features of file managers of 10 years ago, after that they only got dumbed down to target regular joe. Yay progress.

Do you have any examples of file managers like this from back then?

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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post #29

I bet it's gonna be a file manager useable by power users with built in terminal, full copypastable path shown by default, ability to navigate inside of zip files as if they're directories, tree view, directory bookmarks, etc... Ah wait, no, that are the features of file managers of 10 years ago, after that they only got dumbed down to target regular joe. Yay progress.

Do you have any examples of file managers like this from back then?

KDE Konqueror
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