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Re: Koudetat+ – Anyone can become an entrepreneur

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Post by apierre »

jeandlr wrote: post #9
apierre wrote: post #4

The title sounds like a Bannatyne book. To be honest, I think France is definitely the last country I would try to be an entrepreneur.

The mission of the fellow entrepreneurs, talents, public figures, hard workers of a country in which they believe and like living is to turn things right, not to give up... This comment is a non-sense, especially if you don't know France so well from the inside.

Je parle en connaissance de cause ;-) I am not saying the project is wrong, far from it. I think you'd agree that France hasn't got the best fiscality or entrepreneur spirit compared to what you can find in the UK/US.

Re: Koudetat+ – Anyone can become an entrepreneur

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Post by weddpros »

jeandlr wrote: post #10
[deleted] wrote: post #7

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Koudetat is not an accelerator. TheFamily is (with selection) Second bullet point is wrong too... Third neither... Man, seriously... You should know what you're talking about before making such absurd statements.

Do you mean that, before asking for a monthly fee, Koudetat never asked for equity instead? (can you tell us more about the Koudetat+ new name? I thought it was to differentiate the two models)

As for the third point, do you mean it's easy/common to do business in France without 'Crédit d'impôt recherche', 'JEI', 'Accre' and the likes? Or are you saying that tuition cannot be subsidized in France (formation professionnelle)?

I've looked at Koudetat/The family before. Back then, I thought 'YC-like, without the seeding part', but maybe I didn't get it.

Please note that it's not easy, even for french people, to understand the Koudetat/TheFamilly duality (but it's become easier with this fee-based business model).

Re: Koudetat+ – Anyone can become an entrepreneur

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Post by jeandlr »

apierre wrote: post #11
jeandlr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mission of the fellow entrepreneurs, talents, public figures, hard workers of a country in which they believe and like living is to turn things right, not to give up... This comment is a non-sense, especially if you don't know France so well from the inside.

Je parle en connaissance de cause ;-) I am not saying the project is wrong, far from it. I think you'd agree that France hasn't got the best fiscality or entrepreneur spirit compared to what you can find in the UK/US.

I'm pretty disappointed then :(

Fiscality has never stopped anyone starting things. Issues actually appear on the long run only.

Comparing US versus UK versus FR is a non-sense if your ambitions are global. You can start anything in France. Money is cheap, Engineers 3x less expensive than UK or US. And there are plenty of people unemployed looking for a great purpose. It's a wonderful play-field for someone ambitious.

Re: Koudetat+ – Anyone can become an entrepreneur

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Post by pi-err »

[deleted] wrote: post #7

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what's your point? You rant that France has low/no entrepreneurship culture and bash a newcomer who tries to change just that?

If you truly believe that you've no chance at succeeding because you're lacking public funding: a/ you don't know what you're talking about. What do Free, Essilor, Unibail, L'Oreal owe to public funding? b/ what are you still doing in France?

Re: Koudetat+ – Anyone can become an entrepreneur

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Post by ashernor »

apierre wrote: post #11
jeandlr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mission of the fellow entrepreneurs, talents, public figures, hard workers of a country in which they believe and like living is to turn things right, not to give up... This comment is a non-sense, especially if you don't know France so well from the inside.

Je parle en connaissance de cause ;-) I am not saying the project is wrong, far from it. I think you'd agree that France hasn't got the best fiscality or entrepreneur spirit compared to what you can find in the UK/US.

Yes the fiscality is not the easiest one, but you can have a lot of help (money from states organizations quite easily for example), and the entrepreneur spirit grows stronger and stronger.

Re: Koudetat+ – Anyone can become an entrepreneur

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Post by weddpros »

antoinec wrote: post #12
[deleted] wrote: post #7

[deleted]

You are not downvoted because people think it's a "rant against Koudetat" but because what you are stating in your post is completely wrong

So I removed it. I would have loved to hear your thoughts though, in addition to "you're completely wrong"

Re: Koudetat+ – Anyone can become an entrepreneur

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Post by weddpros »

pi-err wrote: post #15
[deleted] wrote: post #7

[deleted]

what's your point? You rant that France has low/no entrepreneurship culture and bash a newcomer who tries to change just that? If you truly believe that you've no chance at succeeding because you're lacking public funding: a/ you don't know what you're talking about. What do Free, Essilor, Unibail, L'Oreal owe to public funding? b/ what are you still doing in France?

I removed my post. You must be right.

a/ I don't think I said we're lacking public funding in France. BPI will invest 1B€ in 2014... slightly more than VCs have in 2013. b/ I've just found a way out...

Re: Koudetat+ – Anyone can become an entrepreneur

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Post by antoinec »

weddpros wrote: post #18
antoinec wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not downvoted because people think it's a "rant against Koudetat" but because what you are stating in your post is completely wrong

So I removed it. I would have loved to hear your thoughts though, in addition to "you're completely wrong"

And I would have love to read a comment of someone who actually tried to understand the article before posting.

I think you need to read that: http://www.rudebaguette.com/2013/05/28/stop-blaming-the-ecos...

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