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Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

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Question: If you were developing a large, content-driven site, would you bother with Bootstrap? Bootstrap seemed a bit like overkill when I had to use it in my old job. The CSS and markup seemed excessive, and the strict JS was kind of a pain to deal with. I know I can get something that looks half-decent up and running quickly with it, but if I'm not planning to take any visual design from it, is there much of an ad…

What's a good alternative?

Min, the extremely small (995 bytes) CSS framework. It has a Bootstrap to Min converter, has near-feature parity with Bootstrap, and is very easy to use. http://minfwk.com

Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

#102
Personally, I don't like Bootstrap. It's difficult to modify, requires jQuery and its own massive JS file, and is huge.

Compare that to Min, the extremely small (995 bytes) CSS framework. It has a Bootstrap to Min converter, has near-feature parity with Bootstrap, and is very easy to use. http://minfwk.com

(Disclaimer: I wrote Min.)

Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

#103

Question: If you were developing a large, content-driven site, would you bother with Bootstrap? Bootstrap seemed a bit like overkill when I had to use it in my old job. The CSS and markup seemed excessive, and the strict JS was kind of a pain to deal with. I know I can get something that looks half-decent up and running quickly with it, but if I'm not planning to take any visual design from it, is there much of an ad…

Answer: You wouldn't. Bootstrap's extremely bloated, requires jQuery, and has a huge (required) JS file. Choose a small, leaner CSS framework, like Min - only 995 bytes and it is near feature parity with Bootstrap. http://minfwk.com

Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

#104

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Great? Looks bland. Anyone else have a weird box sitting under the download button? http://i.imgur.com/U5OyI7g.png

Have you got an ad-blocker running? I believe that box is meant to be an ad, which the creators of Bootstrap use to support the project.

I'm getting the same thing and I'm definitely not running an ad blocker. Chrome 32/OSX, no extensions.

Perhaps the CarbonAds thing is just flaky

Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

#105

Question: If you were developing a large, content-driven site, would you bother with Bootstrap? Bootstrap seemed a bit like overkill when I had to use it in my old job. The CSS and markup seemed excessive, and the strict JS was kind of a pain to deal with. I know I can get something that looks half-decent up and running quickly with it, but if I'm not planning to take any visual design from it, is there much of an ad…

Answer: You wouldn't. Bootstrap's extremely bloated, requires jQuery, and has a huge (required) JS file. Choose a small, leaner CSS framework, like Min - only 995 bytes and it is near feature parity with Bootstrap. http://minfwk.com

How do you define 'near feature parity'? From that page, Min doesn't appear to have anything like the dropdowns, button groups, tabs, more than half the navbar options, pagination, progress bars, etc. that Bootstrap has...

It could certainly be useful, but doesn't appear to me to be anywhere close to feature parity.

Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

#106

Question: If you were developing a large, content-driven site, would you bother with Bootstrap? Bootstrap seemed a bit like overkill when I had to use it in my old job. The CSS and markup seemed excessive, and the strict JS was kind of a pain to deal with. I know I can get something that looks half-decent up and running quickly with it, but if I'm not planning to take any visual design from it, is there much of an ad…

Forget the grid entirely, no grid system is better than custom-coded responsive layout for the big chunks of the page.

I can't imagine how many hundreds of hours of work Bootstraps components and plugins have saved me though! Carousel, popovers, tabs, accordions, toggles, drop downs, form styles, and more all rolled into one CSS and JS file that are easy to theme! YES PLEASE

Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

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Defining all 4 screen sizes gets tedious. That aside, The new landing page on http://getbootstrap.com/ looks great

Great? Looks bland. Anyone else have a weird box sitting under the download button? http://i.imgur.com/U5OyI7g.png

I had it too, using Chrome without an ad-blocker. It's a caching issue. If you hit Ctrl-F5, it will display as an ad.

Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

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post #94

Question: If you were developing a large, content-driven site, would you bother with Bootstrap? Bootstrap seemed a bit like overkill when I had to use it in my old job. The CSS and markup seemed excessive, and the strict JS was kind of a pain to deal with. I know I can get something that looks half-decent up and running quickly with it, but if I'm not planning to take any visual design from it, is there much of an ad…

If you want to avoid polluting the HTML too much, you could always use the mixins/classes from the LESS or SASS files ( https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap-sass for SASS). Even as a frontend developer who knows CSS pretty well, I like using Bootstrap. It lets me focus on more important things. For my workplace, the UI team will use a bit from Bootstrap, more if we're under time pressure to finish a project. They rather…

A UI Semantics is probably essential before you start authoring HTML with application semantics, like HTTP Verbs via AJAX. So there's an essential need for things like LESS and SASS to provide managers for states, easy to follow metamixins for liberally namespacing HTML through classes at least.

https://github.com/OscarGodson/HTML6 anyone?

Re: Bootstrap 3.1 released

#110

Question: If you were developing a large, content-driven site, would you bother with Bootstrap? Bootstrap seemed a bit like overkill when I had to use it in my old job. The CSS and markup seemed excessive, and the strict JS was kind of a pain to deal with. I know I can get something that looks half-decent up and running quickly with it, but if I'm not planning to take any visual design from it, is there much of an ad…

Answer: You wouldn't. Bootstrap's extremely bloated, requires jQuery, and has a huge (required) JS file. Choose a small, leaner CSS framework, like Min - only 995 bytes and it is near feature parity with Bootstrap. http://minfwk.com

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