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Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by nivla »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #70
nivla wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based off the majority of OS related post and comments, I would assume so too but there are a good number of lurkers and users who are non-vocal about their use of Windows. I couldn't find any HN Poll on this matter, but I hope someone who dealt with an HN effect would be kind enough to share their Analytics report on the OS traffic.

Maybe it's like a sort of Stockholm syndrome... Yesterday a buddy of mine (and partner in crime - the proverbial kind) tried to install a new language and dev environment on his machine. 4 hours and much frustration later, he still couldn't do much. On Linux the same tasks would have taken 20 minutes (and did, as I had installed the same environment several months ago). I couldn't imagine doing any development on Win…

>Maybe it's like a sort of Stockholm syndrome...

I wouldn't call it that. My assumption is based off of the outcome in desktop market share and the fact of the monopoly title still being held by Windows.

>Yesterday a buddy of mine (and partner in crime - the proverbial kind) tried to install a new language and dev environment on his machine. 4 hours and much frustration later, he still couldn't do much.

Out of curiosity what was he/she installing? Unless its a *nix port of something, all it should involve is install and run.

Well its quiet opposite for me, everytime I try to set up a dev environment or anything GUI related (like media center) on Ubuntu, there is atleast one thing that happens not to work. Googling mostly comes up with a fix where I would need to recompile the whole thing, at which point I give up and switch to Windows.

However, for servers, I love Linux distros, it works perfectly out of box, I can't imagine running Windows for anything server related.

Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by Mikeb85 »

nivla wrote: post #81
Mikeb85 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's like a sort of Stockholm syndrome... Yesterday a buddy of mine (and partner in crime - the proverbial kind) tried to install a new language and dev environment on his machine. 4 hours and much frustration later, he still couldn't do much. On Linux the same tasks would have taken 20 minutes (and did, as I had installed the same environment several months ago). I couldn't imagine doing any development on Win…

>Maybe it's like a sort of Stockholm syndrome... I wouldn't call it that. My assumption is based off of the outcome in desktop market share and the fact of the monopoly title still being held by Windows. >Yesterday a buddy of mine (and partner in crime - the proverbial kind) tried to install a new language and dev environment on his machine. 4 hours and much frustration later, he still couldn't do much. Out of curios…

Haxe, git, mercurial, FlashDevelop, Java, etc...

On Linux you use the Haxe install script, then sudo apt-get or sudo zypper install everything. Add a Vim script for context aware code completion, haxelib install a few things, all done.

On Windows - Haxe installed easily. Everything else was a nightmare - had to download everything from every vendor's website, then had to download a bunch of dependencies from various other vendor's websites, then he had to figure out versions of .NET (apparently he needed .NET 2.0 AND .NET 4), 32 bit vs. 64 bit. In hindsight if we were to do it again it'd be quicker, but it was a hassle.

Everything worked (eventually), but it wasn't fun. I'll never again take for granted how Linux pulls in dependencies for everything automatically.

Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by pistle »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #70
nivla wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based off the majority of OS related post and comments, I would assume so too but there are a good number of lurkers and users who are non-vocal about their use of Windows. I couldn't find any HN Poll on this matter, but I hope someone who dealt with an HN effect would be kind enough to share their Analytics report on the OS traffic.

Maybe it's like a sort of Stockholm syndrome... Yesterday a buddy of mine (and partner in crime - the proverbial kind) tried to install a new language and dev environment on his machine. 4 hours and much frustration later, he still couldn't do much. On Linux the same tasks would have taken 20 minutes (and did, as I had installed the same environment several months ago). I couldn't imagine doing any development on Win…

chocolatey.org?

Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by umeshunni »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #58

On topic: I do not think this guy (or any CEO) of Microsoft is going to be able drive Microsoft in any true sense of the word. Gates is not going anywhere. Off topic: I might be the only one who came in here excitedly expecting to see a Female CEO of Microsoft. Kind of disappointed when I saw the picture and it's just another balding dude. No I'm not female or a feminist, just kind of excited for drastic progressive…

> excitedly expecting to see a Female An informal search seems to indicate that around 1/5 of Satyas are female, so I can see why you thought so.

Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by marshray »

nivla wrote: post #47
hueving wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody uses bing and Windows is largely enterprise. The entire value of Windows is enterprise management.

>Nobody uses bing Not sure if you are trying to pull out the old faded joke or being truly serious. Bing has about 18%-27% market share depending on Organic vs Powered By. No I am not nitpicking a specific blog article, infact its the first summarized link on a Google search for "Bing market share". Bing also powers Siri, which is another major contributor. >Windows is largely enterprise. Its revenue may be largely e…

> No I am not nitpicking a specific blog article

It would be 'nitpicking' to point out that you were not 'cherry picking' one from many possible articles to support your point.

Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by shanselman »

gesman wrote: post #71

Nadella is a perfect fit for MSFT CEO. MSFT's power and potential is in everything enterprise and Nadella understands this (or rather passionate about this) universe from top to bottom better than any other candidate.

Totally. He's wicked smart, very nice, and both a techie and a business guy.

Note: He's my boss, 4 bosses up.

Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by VladRussian2 »

exelius wrote: post #63
dm8 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Satya has an MBA too. I was just commenting on my previous comment. I guess author meant that someone just with MBA as a qualification and no relevant tech background would have been bad deal since MBAs get hired in leadership role even if they may or may not possess relevant domain knowledge.

Nobody is going to get hired as CEO of an $80 billion a year company with just an MBA. It would be an MBA plus 20-30 years of business experience, and these days it's almost impossible to avoid technology completely. I'm not even sure domain knowledge is important for a CEO of a company that size: once you become a $50 billion plus company, you don't have time to get involved with the details of the business.

>I'm not even sure domain knowledge is important for a CEO of a company that size: once you become a $50 billion plus company, you don't have time to get involved with the details of the business.

Steve Jobs and CEOs in-between kind of make a counter-example.

Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by philwelch »

chc wrote: post #38
keithwarren wrote: post #17

Background != Direction All this banter about it being a bad choice or a good choice because Satya's current role is enterprise focused is just goofy. Had Elop been chosen we would not be acting as if Microsoft is only a phone company now and is abandoning the enterprise.

I think the unspoken logic here is that Microsoft is already doing great in the enterprise and poorly on devices, so hiring somebody with the same distribution of strengths and weaknesses will just exacerbate the weaknesses without helping the strengths all that much (since they're already strong there).

Or maybe it will signal that Microsoft is serious about being an enterprise software company and might stop wasting money and mindshare on chasing trends it can't ever catch.

Re: Microsoft Said to Be Preparing to Make Satya Nadella CEO

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Post by eklavya »

nokia_chi wrote: post #26
sirkneeland wrote: post #22

A lot of Nokia employees are probably happy it isn't going to be Stephen Elop. I know this one is.

As a former NOKIAn I am sad. I want to see MS go down in flames and without Elop it's gonna be difficult. However Indians are also very talented at destroying the spirit of their own companies and alienating their users (see Harman or Adobe) so there is a hope...

Yeah, right. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2084441...
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