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Defining all 4 screen sizes gets tedious. That aside, The new landing page on http://getbootstrap.com/ looks great
Great? Looks bland. Anyone else have a weird box sitting under the download button? http://i.imgur.com/U5OyI7g.png
I absolutely adore Bootstrap (and v3 was a big upgrade). As a primarily backend developer with mediocre at best front end knowledge (and terrible design sense) it is an absolute joy to work with. EDIT: Also reading the blog post they moved license to MIT, this makes me a happy bunny as well.
Question: If you were developing a large, content-driven site, would you bother with Bootstrap? Bootstrap seemed a bit like overkill when I had to use it in my old job. The CSS and markup seemed excessive, and the strict JS was kind of a pain to deal with. I know I can get something that looks half-decent up and running quickly with it, but if I'm not planning to take any visual design from it, is there much of an ad…
Even as a frontend developer who knows CSS pretty well, I like using Bootstrap. It lets me focus on more important things.
For my workplace, the UI team will use a bit from Bootstrap, more if we're under time pressure to finish a project. They rather do stuff from scratch most of the time, but they're coming around on the ability to use mixins & slim down the CSS using the LESS.
In the documentation pages they have inexplicably moved the navigation links to the right side.
We'll see how it goes—if enough folks complain, we can revisit :). I wanted the content to be in the absolute forefront with this update. That meant not affixing the top navbar and downplaying the side nav. I think it's super helpful, but again, I'm open to reversing things again if it'd be better for more folks.
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In the examples here, under custom components: http://getbootstrap.com/getting-started/#examples
Am I missing something, or do they minify the example code? Why do they do that? Is there an easier to copy/edit version somewhere?
Meanwhile: youmightnotneedbootstrap.com
Meanwhile: drunk?
Question: If you were developing a large, content-driven site, would you bother with Bootstrap? Bootstrap seemed a bit like overkill when I had to use it in my old job. The CSS and markup seemed excessive, and the strict JS was kind of a pain to deal with. I know I can get something that looks half-decent up and running quickly with it, but if I'm not planning to take any visual design from it, is there much of an ad…
Bootstrap 3 is much nicer to use than previous versions, if that's what you were using in the past. Each element is more of a barebones styling to it, which makes it easier to get what you want out of them (such as buttons). I spent a lot of time in previous versions of bootstrap just stripping out text-shadows, border-radius, gradients, and more just to get it back to a basic component. The grid in the Boostrap 3 is…
Pushed to CDN too http://www.jsdelivr.com/#!bootstrap
Curious what people's thoughts on using a CDN for these sorts of things (Bootstrap, JQuery etc) versus deploying it on their own sites. It's an extra DNS query - but thoughts on overall impact on performance?
However, over time I revised my opinion. During development, it's usually nicer to have all your static files associated with the project in your project directory. There might also be a situation where you're developing offline (or crappy hotel wifi) and a failed GET just messes up your whole rhythm.
Additionally, a lot of my work is internal projects. If I'm throwing together a quick web application, or even just a static site, I use bootstrap's grid, table classes, and icon packs to make that project look nicer. But I felt that for a secure application that can only be reached while on our VPN, it didn't make sense to refer the browser to a piece of javascript running out on the internet. Even if no malicious tracking code is injected into the js, I don't need to give this third party server details like 'REFERRER=https://passwordvault.corp.example.com/?q=jsmith'.
If you have the skills to write 90+ UIs from scratch, you probably get little out of bootstrap, unless you're rapidly prototyping and need a 65% UI in four hours.
It's a great tool that improved both the minimum level of the web and the efficiency with which good UIs can be built.
If you don't need it, that's great, you're a highly skilled specialist. But it is still an extremely valuable tool for large swaths of the web.