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Re: Introducing Paper

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Post by gfosco »

joe_the_user wrote: post #269
gfosco wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's so much more to Paper than your existing news feed.

Putting aside the marketing-blather tone of your post, what is this "more"? Who would create this "more"? The nice thing about my existing news feed is that it is created by the people I either know or have a rather specific affinity to. Either way, they create stuff that actually is interesting specifically to me. And only about 5-10 of them are capable of producing video or the equvilent. Most produce essays, quips…

When you get to play with it next week, you'll understand. Newsfeed is one section, and you can choose from a variety of others to flip through. They will be curated and high quality. See recent posts like: http://recode.net/2014/01/27/facebook-is-seeking-editors-for...

Re: Introducing Paper

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Post by 9999 »

yanivt wrote: post #125

What a bunch of grumpy old men. I bet everybody sitting here taking shots at this app 1) have never created anything nearly as cool 2) would not have understood Apple in its hayday 3) spend too much time reading and taking shots at other people's work. I'm all for being cynical and questioning what's out there but you have to let the good stuff through. The design here is first class. The Facebook guys have outdone t…

With the number of comments about never having seen/used a typewriter before, I'm guessing they're mainly grumpy young people.

I'm not at all a fan of facebook, but the design here is really solid and the marketing sells it quite well. I wonder if the Instagram team worked on this.

Re: Introducing Paper

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Post by joe_the_user »

gfosco wrote: post #272
joe_the_user wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Putting aside the marketing-blather tone of your post, what is this "more"? Who would create this "more"? The nice thing about my existing news feed is that it is created by the people I either know or have a rather specific affinity to. Either way, they create stuff that actually is interesting specifically to me. And only about 5-10 of them are capable of producing video or the equvilent. Most produce essays, quips…

When you get to play with it next week, you'll understand. Newsfeed is one section, and you can choose from a variety of others to flip through. They will be curated and high quality. See recent posts like: http://recode.net/2014/01/27/facebook-is-seeking-editors-for...

Will the curators be as obtusely disconnected from their readers as your replies to my posts have been?

I mean, my argument is that there is fundamental difference, a wide gulf, between a feed of friends' posts and a curated stream of news article, even if some friend's posts contain some links.

A friend might, say, object to my argument using a counter-argument whereas, for example, a marketing bot would respond with a stream of text all of which is synonymous with "don't worry, it will be great".

Re: Introducing Paper

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Post by derefr »

jodrellblank wrote: post #266
derefr wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Er, you totally read that wrong. Switch the terms "developer" and "user" in your analogy.

I don't think I misread it; I was poking at you to illustrate that your internal feelings of jealousy and anger are not the responsibility of the advertiser to avoid triggering, and suppressing them is not "being a good person" (or a 'bad' person), it's "covering over a problem you have and pretending it's not a problem hoping it will go away". Correctly functioning (neither judged as good or bad) humans don't get an…

> your internal feelings of jealousy and anger are not the responsibility of the advertiser to avoid triggering.

They kind of are. I mean, for most other jobs, you're right--your emotions are your own responsibility. But advertising (inasmuch as it's more than simply "getting the word out") is all about harnessing peoples' irrationalities in profitable ways. And that means avoiding triggering irrationalities and biases people have that might scare them away from buying what you're selling.

For example, the last thing you want to show in a computer ad is a picture of the machine with an IDE open. Because IDEs are intimidating to a lot of people, reminding them of skills they lack ("I'm not good with computers.") And "intimidated" is not a buying mood.

(Also, as an aside, I'm not sure in which sense you meant "you," but to be sure, I wasn't the poster you first replied to.)

Re: Introducing Paper

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Post by scholia »

nfoz wrote: post #119
narfz wrote: post #65

it's nice to see mike matas' again. i really felt in love with his UI skills ( http://mikematas.com )

I clicked that link and my web browser gave me a type of popup I didn't think it could, declaring: "This is a next generation website that is best viewed in an advanced web browser such as Apple's Safari. You will be able to view the site using this browser but the performance may be poor." Then my browser nearly died before I could close the tab.

Got the same message with Firefox 26, but the site worked fine. However, it did make me think the guy was a dick....

Re: Introducing Paper

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Post by ulfw »

brightghost wrote: post #132
ulfw wrote: post #88

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Wrong browser/OS then. On Safari/Mac it runs on an aging dual-core i7 Macbook Air with around 20% CPU

...an "aging" ~two-year-old laptop with a top of the line processor?

Well it's a 2011 Model. But calling a 1.8Ghz Dual Core 'top of the line' is a stretch, especially compared to the previous commenters 100% used octo-core.
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