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Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by claudius »

Pxtl wrote: post #192
palebluedot wrote: post #105

Google just confirmed it, and explained some of their reasoning: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/lenovo-to-acquire-mot... I'm inexplicably bummed about this. I was excited to see what Google would do long term with Motorola, and I thought the Moto X and Moto G was a great start. I thought eventually, a Google+Motorola powerhouse could provide a nice yin to Apple's yang.

I bought my wife a Moto G. I've been pretty impressed with the device - I was hopeful for the future of Moto/Google. This is disappointing. Lenovo is an intensely boring company, they're not going to do anything fun with the Moto brand.

At least these phones don't have perfectly fine, working keyboards Lenovo could 'improve'.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by josteink »

claudius wrote: post #221
Pxtl wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought my wife a Moto G. I've been pretty impressed with the device - I was hopeful for the future of Moto/Google. This is disappointing. Lenovo is an intensely boring company, they're not going to do anything fun with the Moto brand.

At least these phones don't have perfectly fine, working keyboards Lenovo could 'improve'.

To be fair, I tried a recent Lenovo laptop and in the BIOS you can swap the Fn and Ctrl-key so that they're back at where they should have been in the first place.

After that, I no longer hated working with the laptop and found it pretty decent.

That said, yes, Lenovo is the definition of a company making "boring" and über-traditional devices.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by claudius »

josteink wrote: post #222
claudius wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least these phones don't have perfectly fine, working keyboards Lenovo could 'improve'.

To be fair, I tried a recent Lenovo laptop and in the BIOS you can swap the Fn and Ctrl-key so that they're back at where they should have been in the first place. After that, I no longer hated working with the laptop and found it pretty decent. That said, yes, Lenovo is the definition of a company making "boring" and über-traditional devices.

Oh, I'm perfectly happy with the location of the Fn key, and, admittedly, larger Del and Esc keys were also a good idea. Five-row keyboards are not (and neither are six-row chiclet-style keyboards).

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by jessedhillon »

harrychenca wrote: post #137
absherwin wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They shredded closer to a sixth of the initial price less whatever IP benefit they received. Motorola had ~$3B in cash when acquired. Google previously sold their set-top box unit for $2.35B and realized about $1.7B in tax benefits from previous losses. However since acquiring it has taken $1.038B in losses, which is $0.67B post-tax. There will be another write down for the lost goodwill less the value of the remaini…

I want to know how long it took you to gather all the figures? and Where you collect them? I am currently working on a platform that help people become better investors. I found your analysis amazingly informative and concise! Thanks!

You can find 10k and 10q statements through Edgar, in rendered form as well as XBRL documents which describe a hypercube. Warren Buffet also has a good book about how he reads P&L statements.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by snaky »

claudius wrote: post #221
Pxtl wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought my wife a Moto G. I've been pretty impressed with the device - I was hopeful for the future of Moto/Google. This is disappointing. Lenovo is an intensely boring company, they're not going to do anything fun with the Moto brand.

At least these phones don't have perfectly fine, working keyboards Lenovo could 'improve'.

Actually, they did - Droid 4 was last in line

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by SkyMarshal »

w1ntermute wrote: post #101
untog wrote: post #95

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Sale for the MotoX at least have been... unimpressive.

You don't achieve impressive sales numbers for a smartphone in one generation, because of the enormous importance of brand recognition. Samsung makes subpar handsets at best, but achieve enormous sales because of their brand recognition. That took them several generations to build up. It wasn't until the S3 that people really started to recognize Samsung phones as a distinct entity. Google should've given Motorola at…

True. Feels like the 80s with the Japanese all over again, and American companies giving up and selling out before they've even gone a single round.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by bruceboughton »

ben1040 wrote: post #196
ceejayoz wrote: post #65

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> And Google TV. Let's not forget that huge failure. Not to mention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_Q

Considering they never actually exchanged money a single Q (the people who pre-ordered them wound up getting them free, as did I/O 2012 attendees), it doesn't seem to be so much of a failure as it was just market research on how to do it the next time. Notwithstanding the built-in amp, the Chromecast is a pretty narrow superset of the Q at least in terms of features.

  Considering they never actually exchanged money a single Q
Seems like quite a failure for a business.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by snaky »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #96
jrs99 wrote: post #44

Google is a mess. Seriously. What happened? It's like there's been a void in their executive leadership in the last couple years.

One co-founder is busy with moonshots and the other with getting Google+ integrated everywhere he can. I say this only slightly in jest. Google's two co-founders are focussing on something most people hate and things that have a small chance of paying off many many years from now.

>and the other with getting Google+ integrated everywhere he can

And what's more important - everywhere he cannot

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Post by snaky »

Pxtl wrote: post #193

I know this is a fantasy at best, but I keep fantasizing they're doing this so they can have the cash liquid... to buy Nintendo. Or Sony. I like Google's attitude towards hardware and I want them in the gaming industry.

Nintendo is on sale?

Last time I checked they declined $25 bln Microsoft offer

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