This comment on the post summarizes well >> Nicolas Charbonnier Moto total cost $12.5B to Goog in 2011: - $3.2B Moto's 2011 cash - $2.4B Moto's 2011 deferred tax assets - $2.35B Moto's Set-top-box business sold in 2012 - $75M Moto's factories business sold in 2013 (incl 7K factory employees) - $2.91B Moto's Mobility business sold in 2014 Thus Moto's remaining assets including patents, buildings (in Chicago and elsewh…
I thought the Chicago (technically the Schaumburg office I believe) moto office was part of the Mobility group? Google is retaining those people?
Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
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Re: Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
#321. A lot of people are fixated on the sales prices and the $9.5 Billion “loss”. Contrary to gloating from Apple fans, looks like in the final analysis Google paid about $3 Billion for “majority” of the Motorola Patents. Not a terrible deal.
2. Apart from the patents, one reason for the Motorola purchase was to provide some competition to Samsung. Given Samsung’s dominance of the Android platform it was going to be problematic for Google in the future. This deal now creates a solid competitor to Samsung. Lenovo is one of the very few Chinese companies that have created a global brand. There are a lot of fantastic Chinese companies that are big but are unknown outside of China. So, with the Lenovo angle, Google gets a strong competitor to Samsung and also a partner to compete within the Chinese market (companies like Xiaomi which are non-Google Android).
3. The mobile market is like the PC market circa 2004, that is it is maturing and has a few years before brutal competition is going to drive down all profits. The future is connected devices, robotics and other ‘intelligent’ machines. With the Nest and Boston Dynamics purchase, Google has the team and the chance to build the next great hardware/software stack ground up and be well positioned for the big markets in the next decade.
All in all, good set of moves for Google. Alas, Apple in contrast reminds me of Microsoft in the early ‘00s. Hugely profitable but fixated on the current ‘ecosystem’ and extending and controlling it. Microsoft’s fixation on the windows ecosystem proved to a huge distraction and ultimately made them miss the internet/advertising and the mobile markets both which proved to be gigantic compared to the windows franchise.
Re: Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
#33Google lost about ~$9 billion on Motorola (~$12 Billion acquisition and now a ~$3 billion sale). This happened in the span of 2 years. You could throw $100 over your shoulder every second for those two years and that still wouldn't amount to $9 billion. We're the patents really worth that much? Edit: To anyone who uses the recent news about Google being forced to pay a percentage of their AdWords revenue to a patent…
No. It wouldn't even help. Can folks please get over the idea that just throwing X dollars into lobbying somehow will magically get them what they want from congress.
Especially not when you have other tech giants on the other side.
Re: Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
#34Interesting set of moves by Google. Few observations 1. A lot of people are fixated on the sales prices and the $9.5 Billion “loss”. Contrary to gloating from Apple fans, looks like in the final analysis Google paid about $3 Billion for “majority” of the Motorola Patents. Not a terrible deal. 2. Apart from the patents, one reason for the Motorola purchase was to provide some competition to Samsung. Given Samsung’s do…
Re: Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
#35Interesting set of moves by Google. Few observations 1. A lot of people are fixated on the sales prices and the $9.5 Billion “loss”. Contrary to gloating from Apple fans, looks like in the final analysis Google paid about $3 Billion for “majority” of the Motorola Patents. Not a terrible deal. 2. Apart from the patents, one reason for the Motorola purchase was to provide some competition to Samsung. Given Samsung’s do…
This isn't necessary, and cheapens a good point.
> This deal now creates a solid competitor to Samsung.
Samsung has solid competitors with strong global brands. You have Sony, which has been around for a long time. You also have LG, HTC, and a lot of other lesser known brands. You have Amazon, BN in the Tablet space.
Not sure what the cheap shots at Apple and Apple fans have to do with this discussion.
Re: Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
#36Damnit, I used plenty of moto G's for android development they were great mainly because you could actually buy unlike Nexus constant shortages. Lenovo like most Chinese corps not friendly to open source I imagine they will replace fastboot with some crippled proprietary junk, and be unfriendly to kernel mods
Really? Thinkpads are the most recommended laptops for running Linux. When I ordered mine, Lenovo even gave me a discount when I told them I didn't want Windows and wanted to run Linux. They even have certified some of their products for Linux... Not sure where you get your info.
Most are squeezing all they can out of the MTK chipset and don't want their competition to know their mods. I'm betting they will flood US market with $80 MTK phones under the motorola brand
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? Thinkpads are the most recommended laptops for running Linux. When I ordered mine, Lenovo even gave me a discount when I told them I didn't want Windows and wanted to run Linux. They even have certified some of their products for Linux... Not sure where you get your info.
Inexpensive mobile market in China is 90% closed source or reluctant open source where they give you something thats almost entirely blobs to barely satisfy GPL. https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/mobile/KnEn... Most are squeezing all they can out of the MTK chipset and don't want their competition to know their mods. I'm betting they will flood US market with $80 MTK phones under the motorola brand
Re: Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
#38Re: Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
#39This comment on the post summarizes well >> Nicolas Charbonnier Moto total cost $12.5B to Goog in 2011: - $3.2B Moto's 2011 cash - $2.4B Moto's 2011 deferred tax assets - $2.35B Moto's Set-top-box business sold in 2012 - $75M Moto's factories business sold in 2013 (incl 7K factory employees) - $2.91B Moto's Mobility business sold in 2014 Thus Moto's remaining assets including patents, buildings (in Chicago and elsewh…
I thought the Chicago (technically the Schaumburg office I believe) moto office was part of the Mobility group? Google is retaining those people?
Re: Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Inexpensive mobile market in China is 90% closed source or reluctant open source where they give you something thats almost entirely blobs to barely satisfy GPL. https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/mobile/KnEn... Most are squeezing all they can out of the MTK chipset and don't want their competition to know their mods. I'm betting they will flood US market with $80 MTK phones under the motorola brand
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