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Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Regardless of the Google specifics, we should really have some sympathy for the Motorola employees. I doubt Lenovo will stomach quarterly losses the way Google did while they restructured. My guess is, we're going to see big layoffs.

My guess is, we're going to see big layoffs. Sometimes, a company sells a division or wholly owned business because it is either that or massive layoffs, and it's better for morale to write down a few billion dollars than to fire thousands of people. Even if you're working in one of the profitable businesses, a real chill goes around when the pink slip printing press starts hammering.

True, but Google has a number of unprofitable divisions. Technically, if you look at G+, Maps, and to some extent, Chrome and Android, which are given away for free, if these were separate businesses, they would bleeding money. I guess technically you could look at Chrome like Mozilla and imagine some ongoing deal to be the default search box. YouTube had no ROI for a long time, certainly longer than the 2 years Google gave Motorola.

Motorola was probably going to go bankrupt before Google bought them. Like Apple when it was bleeding money in the 90s, it needed a way to gain time to reinvent itself. Google's purchase probably prevented mass layoffs in the short term, but has Motorola been given enough time to turn itself around? I dunno. We will see what happens shortly after Lenovo takes control.

Given Motorola's history in the technology industry, it's sad to see them go under. Reminds me of Silicon Graphics, the company that basically invented the majority of the fundamental facets of modern computer graphics, gone, while people gleefully play games on their mobile GPUs unaware of where we'd be without them.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like Google used the Motorola patents to get Samsung to tone down its Android skinning: http://recode.net/2014/01/29/after-google-pressure-samsung-w... If this keeps Android from being forked by Samsung, I'd say it's not such a big loss.

Perhaps you can look at it from a different angle: Samsung made it very clear that they would continue to fork Android, unless Google stopped making smartphones and dropped Motorola. In a way Samsung has much more leverage over Android than Google.

Google should be picking another OEM (Lenovo?) and doing everything it can to push its sales, to create competition for Samsung. The whole point of Android was that by making the OS free software, it would neuter the OEMs, not give them the power to fork the OS.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like Google used the Motorola patents to get Samsung to tone down its Android skinning: http://recode.net/2014/01/29/after-google-pressure-samsung-w... If this keeps Android from being forked by Samsung, I'd say it's not such a big loss.

Perhaps you can look at it from a different angle: Samsung made it very clear that they would continue to fork Android, unless Google stopped making smartphones and dropped Motorola. In a way Samsung has much more leverage over Android than Google.

I agree. Think reason Rubin left Android team in Google was because google realized samsung had too much control and google wasn't happy with Rubin too much...

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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With the sale of Motorola, the intro of Chrome Apps for Mobile, the stepping down of Andy Rubin - is Google losing interest in Android? When will we see ChromeOS for Mobile?

Did Andy step down or finally have an opportunity to peruse his dream?

> For Rubin, manufacturing is a return to the past. According to a 2007 profile, Rubin began as a robot engineer at lens manufacturer Carl Zeiss and had a brief stint at Apple as a manufacturing engineer before devoting his working hours to developing computers instead. However, robotics remained a hobby, with Rubin both building his own and amassing a collection of robots from Japan.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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I wonder if this has anything to do with Apple's focus on the Chinese market. Google could effectively hand off a tightly wound partnership to an established Chinese company in Lenovo that can then leverage Android more effectively in a head to head battle with Apple. In the interim, Google keeps its hands clean and doesn't enter into the discussions that plague any sort of success in the Chinese marketplace.

Doubtful Lenovo would keep Google Apps, Search, Gmail etc on their Chinese-market Android phones.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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It's hard not to draw connections between the various events of the last week or so: 1) Google/Samsung patent deal, 2) Google purchases Nest, 3) Google sells Motorola, 4) Samsung suddenly cools on Tizen. Theory: Google gets offered the opportunity to buy Nest. Either Larry or Sergey gets serious interested. They bought Motorola because they wanted a serious stake in the hardware market. They toss up which is better -…

Buying Moto handsets was a brain-fart from the beginning. It's a good day for Google shareholders that Google decided to take the perceived financial hit (in reality they had taken that hit already) and unload a small-ish mediocre handset OEM and achieve clarity in their OEM partner relationships.

The biggest red flag I had seen re Google last year were the ads Moto ads with the tag line "A Google company." I could not think of a less Google-like company than an old-line handset OEM.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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post #142

With the sale of Motorola, the intro of Chrome Apps for Mobile, the stepping down of Andy Rubin - is Google losing interest in Android? When will we see ChromeOS for Mobile?

Did Andy step down or finally have an opportunity to peruse his dream? > For Rubin, manufacturing is a return to the past. According to a 2007 profile, Rubin began as a robot engineer at lens manufacturer Carl Zeiss and had a brief stint at Apple as a manufacturing engineer before devoting his working hours to developing computers instead. However, robotics remained a hobby, with Rubin both building his own and amass…

Could very well be! And why not follow your dreams when you're rich? Fact still remains that Android is now under ChromeOS chief Sundar Pichai.

Re: Lenovo to buy Google's Motorola handset division

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sale for the MotoX at least have been... unimpressive.

You don't achieve impressive sales numbers for a smartphone in one generation, because of the enormous importance of brand recognition. Samsung makes subpar handsets at best, but achieve enormous sales because of their brand recognition. That took them several generations to build up. It wasn't until the S3 that people really started to recognize Samsung phones as a distinct entity. Google should've given Motorola at…

Yea--the only reason I even know about Moto X is because I was looking for a cheap data plan, and stumbled upon the phone at rebublic wireless. My point is I agree--it takes time.
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