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The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

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Re: The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

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Opportunity here for the motivated - the prices seem high, so arbitrage the price by reselling the data at lower prices to multiple buyers.

Bonus: you could set up a system where a person's data gets cheaper as more people query it!

(Not for me thanks.)

Re: The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

#22

Would this enable the private industry to create services and analyses based off this cheaply available data? Yes, it seems heinous at first, but are there legitimate, palatable Big Data opportunities here, assuming the data is properly anonymized?

Yes, there are big data opportunities, and yes, they're already being done! companies do (regularly) get contracted to provide analysis of the data, however they have to stay within a strict set of data protection rules, and are highly accountable.

Re: The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

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post #13

Would this enable the private industry to create services and analyses based off this cheaply available data? Yes, it seems heinous at first, but are there legitimate, palatable Big Data opportunities here, assuming the data is properly anonymized?

It is exceptionally difficult, if not impossible, to properly anonymize this kind of data, and this particular dataset is absolutely not anonymized.

Heh, mostly off topic: I just bought the book "Anonymizing Health Data"[0]. No significance to the article, just amused at the timing. Looks like this is going to be a problem domain moving forward with my career.

[0] http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920029229.do

Re: The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

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post #4

This would be straight up illegal in the US due to HIPAA, which guarantees a patient's right to privacy. HIPAA = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_an...

No it isn't. U.S. health data can be sold if it is de-identified or with a patient's permission.

Re: The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

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post #24

Will data be made available outside the NHS?* (PDF) [england.nhs.uk] http://goo.gl/CxqFVa * FAQ 39.

At first the statement that identifiable data will only be released when there is a legal obligation to do so reassured me. Then I read that section 251 (http://goo.gl/rtuVF8) is one of those obligations - the secretary of health can override common law to allow the data to be used for particular purposes.

Re: The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

#28

You can choose to have your information not included, it's an opt out system. Form is here: http://www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/systemsandservices/scr...

That's an opt out for the summary care record which is a different centralised system. We're talking about care.data here.

Re: The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

#29
I fully expected to read the details and see that the headline was some sort of hyperbole, as these things nearly always are. I'm still hoping someone will tell me this isn't real.

This seems downright evil. Disgusting. There is no justifiable reason for this data to be available in any sort of unanonymized form. Everything that is justifiable that can be achieved with it in anonymous form can be achieved with it anonymized.

The terrible part is that there is a good reason for a program like this. There are real reasons to collect and know this kind of data - it can make a huge difference to human health and well being. And that is why this is so bad. It's going to set back participation in any sort of electronic health record all around the world, if people see such a high profile program manifest as a privacy disaster.

Re: The NHS is selling your private data – here's the price list [pdf]

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post #25
post #4

This would be straight up illegal in the US due to HIPAA, which guarantees a patient's right to privacy. HIPAA = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_an...

No it isn't. U.S. health data can be sold if it is de-identified or with a patient's permission.

But this data is not de-identified. They explicitly list prices for data with confidential, patient-identifying information.
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