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Re: Drilling surprise opens door to volcano-powered electricity

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It sounds like they didn't intend to drill into magma, but is it possible to survey the land and intentionally find magma near the surface to exploit in this manner? If not, isn't the question of whether you can effectively harness the energy or not moot?

Not going to say its easy. But you can pretty accurately map magma under the surface using seismology. I believe it requires an earthquake and having the correct equipment in place, so its far from ideal. But it does work well.

It's been awhile since I've sat in on geology, but I seem to recall that they can use short-range seismic signals (by firing a shotgun shell into the ground). I'm not sure as to the resolution -- one could imagine getting better resolution firing multiple shells simultaneously over a certain area. My $.02

Re: Drilling surprise opens door to volcano-powered electricity

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About about using the $1 Billion in natural gas they burn off every year in North Dakota for electricity instead of just heating the atmosphere.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269517/The-picture-...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/business/energy-environmen...

Re: Drilling surprise opens door to volcano-powered electricity

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not going to say its easy. But you can pretty accurately map magma under the surface using seismology. I believe it requires an earthquake and having the correct equipment in place, so its far from ideal. But it does work well.

It's been awhile since I've sat in on geology, but I seem to recall that they can use short-range seismic signals (by firing a shotgun shell into the ground). I'm not sure as to the resolution -- one could imagine getting better resolution firing multiple shells simultaneously over a certain area. My $.02

30 years ago remember USSR used underground nukes at least once specifically for exploration of oil/gas in Siberia.

Re: Drilling surprise opens door to volcano-powered electricity

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been awhile since I've sat in on geology, but I seem to recall that they can use short-range seismic signals (by firing a shotgun shell into the ground). I'm not sure as to the resolution -- one could imagine getting better resolution firing multiple shells simultaneously over a certain area. My $.02

30 years ago remember USSR used underground nukes at least once specifically for exploration of oil/gas in Siberia.

"39 explosions for the purpose of geological exploration (trying to find new natural gas deposits by studying seismic waves produced by small nuclear explosions)"

(As well as several other interesting tests/uses)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Explosions_for_the_Nati...

Re: Drilling surprise opens door to volcano-powered electricity

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The problem with geothermal power is access. It's the reason why Iceland is almost entirely powered by renewables, and why the rest of the world isn't.

So if Iceland finds pockets of magma at 5km, it's only really a breakthrough if you can access magma at shallow depths in other regions.

Re: Drilling surprise opens door to volcano-powered electricity

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It sounds like they didn't intend to drill into magma, but is it possible to survey the land and intentionally find magma near the surface to exploit in this manner? If not, isn't the question of whether you can effectively harness the energy or not moot?

Not going to say its easy. But you can pretty accurately map magma under the surface using seismology. I believe it requires an earthquake and having the correct equipment in place, so its far from ideal. But it does work well.

It's really easy! Seismic surveys are key to the oil & gas industry, and can be used for other resources as well. We use thumper trucks instead of waiting for earthquakes.

Re: Drilling surprise opens door to volcano-powered electricity

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been awhile since I've sat in on geology, but I seem to recall that they can use short-range seismic signals (by firing a shotgun shell into the ground). I'm not sure as to the resolution -- one could imagine getting better resolution firing multiple shells simultaneously over a certain area. My $.02

30 years ago remember USSR used underground nukes at least once specifically for exploration of oil/gas in Siberia.

Before that, the US did it in New Mexico in 1967 with project gasbuggy. It was nuclear fracking basically.

Re: Drilling surprise opens door to volcano-powered electricity

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For many years I imagined that space faring future humans would depend on hydrogen gas clouds as the source of their energy. Think: intergalactic highways with gas-stations at such formations. But this brings another resource to mind: In the future, we might view planets, not merely for their mineral resources, but also for the heat that may be trapped within them (AFAIK not all planets have a hot, molten core).

Autonomous planetary settlement bots; colonizers of planets. Harnessing the energy trapped within the planet to refine minerals on the surface or terraform the surface.

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