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The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

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Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

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This trope is getting exceedingly tired, on par with the "taxation is theft", "atheism is a religion" and "Linux should be called GNU/Linux" brigades that often crop up in the appropriate discussions. Theft and "steal" have long been used outside of the OED definitions; I can be a "thief of time", "steal an idea", "steal a base" and so forth. "Theft" and "steal" are appropriate words for the behaviour of people who h…

I don't think this is accurate. "Theft" is the wrong word to use, because theft is fundamentally a different concept , and the use of that word draws a false equivalence. And I'm not arguing that copyright infringement is legitimate on the basis that "intellectual property is unjust" or anything like that; but there are explicit differences that must be taken into account.

Theft is not a fundamentally different concept in the English language. The word "theft" has been used to refer to the appropriation or misuse of things other than physical property for a very long time.

Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

#52

This: "The audiences that Di Petta and Cameron have built are created with the work of photographers who they don't pay or even credit . They don't provide sources for the photographs or the captions that accompany them. Sometimes they get stuff wrong and/or post copyrighted photographs. " Combined with this: "I'm sure the majority of photographers would be glad to have their work seen by the massives." Nothing 'new…

Shouldn't this be considered "fair use"? A bunch of guys find some pictures on the internet. These pictures are not the originals but low-res jpegs. The pictures are saved on their machines (by the browser). Then the pictures are uploaded to Twitter. The source/photographer is provided with every picture (if info. is available). I don't understand how photographers are losing here? They are getting free publicity fro…

"free publicity"

Exposure doesn't put food on the table.

Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

#53
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The credit thing seems like a red herring. Either you have the license to the photo or you don't.

From an ethical perspective I often think credit in these cases is more important than licensing, at least for older stuff. If it's a photo from the 1930s, I honestly don't care if some great-grandnephew technically owns the copyright, but it would be nice to have an accurate caption. The licensing issue gets bigger in my mind the more recent the photos get.

I agree. I think that (mis)attribution is a much more fundamental crime than unauthorized reproduction. It's essentially fraud to pass these off as their own works, or with incorrect captions.

Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

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The credit thing seems like a red herring. Either you have the license to the photo or you don't.

There are a lot of opinions about the legitimacy of modern copyright laws, but almost everyone agrees that people deserve credit for their work as long as it is appreciated, so focusing on the latter addresses a more universal issue.

Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

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Shouldn't this be considered "fair use"? A bunch of guys find some pictures on the internet. These pictures are not the originals but low-res jpegs. The pictures are saved on their machines (by the browser). Then the pictures are uploaded to Twitter. The source/photographer is provided with every picture (if info. is available). I don't understand how photographers are losing here? They are getting free publicity fro…

"free publicity" Exposure doesn't put food on the table.

Indeed. "working for exposure" is basically a swear word in some photography circles.

Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

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That's not how Twitter works

Yea, how Twitter works is it eats up 24 characters on a URL. No thanks. I figured the headlines were interesting enough on their own 99% of the time.

FWIW, I'd also really like to see links to the articles. :)

Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

#58

This: "The audiences that Di Petta and Cameron have built are created with the work of photographers who they don't pay or even credit . They don't provide sources for the photographs or the captions that accompany them. Sometimes they get stuff wrong and/or post copyrighted photographs. " Combined with this: "I'm sure the majority of photographers would be glad to have their work seen by the massives." Nothing 'new…

Shouldn't this be considered "fair use"? A bunch of guys find some pictures on the internet. These pictures are not the originals but low-res jpegs. The pictures are saved on their machines (by the browser). Then the pictures are uploaded to Twitter. The source/photographer is provided with every picture (if info. is available). I don't understand how photographers are losing here? They are getting free publicity fro…

> They are getting free publicity

For that, they would have to be properly credited in the first place...

Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

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Start re-posting their tweets on a halfway-popular account and see how quickly they learn about copyright.

But all they care about is the follower count. Once it hits a million, they can sell off this account to someone who wants to monetize it. I mean, they have no real attraction to "History in Pics" as a constant, or to any particular post. They just care about it as something that people seem to like to follow. If someone else rips off their content, I doubt that would have any impact at all.

It's against Twitter's terms to sell an account or username. Does Twitter commonly look the other way on this? Are there public examples of Twitter accounts being sold for a lot of money?

Re: The Two Teenagers Who Run the Popular Twitter Feed @HistoryInPics

#60
post #27

So basically to start a successful account all you need to do is find a popular subreddit and upload most upvoted post on Twitter

Someone did that to a big subreddit I created. There are tons of copy-cats who are even using my trademarked name and Twitter won't do jack about it.
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