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Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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While I'm fond of any form of flipping the NSA-backing US administration the bird, the Nobel Peace prize has not enough reputation to matter in this context. Al Gore got it for raising awareness of climate change. Obama got that for not being Bush. Even if Snowden gets it, it doesn't really matter.

> Obama got that for not being Bush That's probably what he's is going to be remembered for. Poor guy.

There are a whole lot of worse things one might be remembered for. Being Bush, for one.

Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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While I'm fond of any form of flipping the NSA-backing US administration the bird, the Nobel Peace prize has not enough reputation to matter in this context. Al Gore got it for raising awareness of climate change. Obama got that for not being Bush. Even if Snowden gets it, it doesn't really matter.

Obama got it before he did anything at all. By default. And in retrospect hes not that different from Bush.

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He certainly deserves it more than Obama (let's not mention Kissinger).

Obama's prize was more of a credit for good deeds in the future. Jagland himself (Nobel committee chairman) partly confirmed that. Sadly, it didn't work out. Rather backfired.

except that obama kept the million dollar prize. since he didnt return it id call that stealing.

Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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post #32
post #13

While I'm fond of any form of flipping the NSA-backing US administration the bird, the Nobel Peace prize has not enough reputation to matter in this context. Al Gore got it for raising awareness of climate change. Obama got that for not being Bush. Even if Snowden gets it, it doesn't really matter.

Obama got it before he did anything at all. By default. And in retrospect hes not that different from Bush.

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Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Obama got that for not being Bush That's probably what he's is going to be remembered for. Poor guy.

There are a whole lot of worse things one might be remembered for. Being Bush, for one.

Or being the guy who 'legitimized' the drone war and killing of American citizens without a trial. Institutionalizing the president's power to decide who dies under the "disposition matrix" (kill list).

Note: Not saying Anwar al-Awlaki was a good guy, or blameless, or anything of the sort. But it is still killing an American citizen from afar without so much as a thought of a trial.

Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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While I'm fond of any form of flipping the NSA-backing US administration the bird, the Nobel Peace prize has not enough reputation to matter in this context. Al Gore got it for raising awareness of climate change. Obama got that for not being Bush. Even if Snowden gets it, it doesn't really matter.

Yasser Arafat & Yitzhak Rabin were awarded it, its not clear if they intended to create a peace, but they did not. Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho were awarded it. Henry Kissinger meanwhile embarked on a major bombing campaign and Le Duc Tho declined the honour. They've made premature or outright bad calls before.

>Yasser Arafat & Yitzhak Rabin were awarded it, its not clear if they intended to create a peace, but they did not.

I'm sorry, what? You aren't sure if Rabin and Arafat "intended to create peace"? What exactly do you think they were intending?

Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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Attending ceremony will be tricky.

Norway and Russia share a border. So it may be easier than at first glance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway%E2%80%93Russia_border

I think the comment was intending to highlight the fact that multiple international organisations are trying to arrest Snowden and his appearance at the awards would put him in jeopardy, not that travel logistics might be an issue.

Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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He certainly deserves it more than Obama (let's not mention Kissinger).

Obama's prize was more of a credit for good deeds in the future. Jagland himself (Nobel committee chairman) partly confirmed that. Sadly, it didn't work out. Rather backfired.

the ability to sell 'hope' and 'change' is a powerful one.

Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yasser Arafat & Yitzhak Rabin were awarded it, its not clear if they intended to create a peace, but they did not. Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho were awarded it. Henry Kissinger meanwhile embarked on a major bombing campaign and Le Duc Tho declined the honour. They've made premature or outright bad calls before.

>Yasser Arafat & Yitzhak Rabin were awarded it, its not clear if they intended to create a peace, but they did not. I'm sorry, what ? You aren't sure if Rabin and Arafat "intended to create peace"? What exactly do you think they were intending?

People on both sides of the Israel vs Palestine discourse tend to accuse the other side of acting in bad faith. And the various "Peace Processes" have generally been a result of pressure from outside the region.
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