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Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

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I wonder why they chose Portugese. Unfortunately, I can't read the blog post. The map seems to indicate that the number of speakers is important, but that can't be it, there's many more Mandarin/Hindi/Arabic speakers. Does anybody have information on this?

It's a mix of market demand and potential. China has all the clones, so Mandarin-speaking people already have their Q/A equivalent.

India (mostly) speaks english at a level that allows them to participate in the "original" Stackoverflow.

Arabic? As much as there is a big population, I would venture that there is not enough demand.

Brazil, OTOH, is a reasonably industrialized country with some industries that are quite advanced: Genomics and Banking come to mind. It has the 3rd or 4th largest telecommunications infrastructure in the world. Put that together with the fact they can't speak English that well and you have a big under-served audience.

Though the cynic in me thinks that this is just a way to contain the pesky Brazilians, who are known for not being exactly civil in online communities. By letting the less educated Brazilians have their own yard, they won't do as much damage to the main property.

Ps: shout out to Gabriel (Gabe). He worked with us for a year or so and it was a pleasure to have him on the team. Great guy, super smart and zero ego.

Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

#23
Interesting to see the change from 2009, in the Stack Overflow podcast 48: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/04/podcast-48/

>One reason localization has been a very low priority is that we feel for our particular audience, namely programmers, English is the de facto standard language. Not that other languages aren’t important, but it’s easier to get engineering work done when everything coalesces around a standard language.

>Joel believes that there are five “important” languages that programming content should eventually be localized into: German, Spanish, French, Chinese, and Japanese.

Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

#24

I wonder why they chose Portugese. Unfortunately, I can't read the blog post. The map seems to indicate that the number of speakers is important, but that can't be it, there's many more Mandarin/Hindi/Arabic speakers. Does anybody have information on this?

It's a mix of market demand and potential. China has all the clones, so Mandarin-speaking people already have their Q/A equivalent. India (mostly) speaks english at a level that allows them to participate in the "original" Stackoverflow. Arabic? As much as there is a big population, I would venture that there is not enough demand. Brazil, OTOH, is a reasonably industrialized country with some industries that are quit…

What about French or Spanish?

Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

#25

From Google Translate: > The basic questions - those that once plagued every programmer - have not yet been made. You can write a question or definitive answer that will help tens of thousands of programmers in the future. (Oh, and do not worry if your question is already on the site in English.'ll Build you a website just for developers who speak Portuguese no longer need to use English to learn new things!) Why not…

Agree on the split-problem. There is no way I could be satisfied with anything but the best ressource with the largest community, so I'd go great lenghts to decipher the greater wisdom.

However machine translation isn't quite there yet (judging by the quality of Microsoft's MSDN-articles translated into German). The topics I read about there, or on Stackoverflow are by definition situated right at the border of my current understanding; a few translation ambiguities or odd word choices push it over the edge and I might not "get" it.

So I doubt building a community on machine-translated articles would work.

Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

#26
That could backfire badly (disclaimer - English is my second language, so I suppose I don't have some superiority complex). Fragmenting knowledge doesn't give much benefit. English is the standard language for the IT for better or worse. Right now a small investment of learning technical English (you need probably 1000 words and rudimentary grammar to be able to search and even contribute) could pay off a lot.

If we are to share knowledge we must speak a common language. A much better use of resources would have been intensive English for IT learning program that could bring people to speed.

And the high quality content found on the Brazilian SO will have hard time finding its way to the main site.

Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

#27
I've seen people post technical questions on Facebook groups like "Jquery Brasil" (sic), by describing the problem/error and attaching an screenshot of the source code.

So, yeah, there's a lot of potential for this.

Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

#28
The majority of SQL injection vulnerabilities found by searching for unsanitized input at GitHub is by Portugese or Spanish users, especially in PHP. I am not trying to generalize, but it seems to me that a StackOverflow in Portugese perhaps is not such a bad idea.

Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a mix of market demand and potential. China has all the clones, so Mandarin-speaking people already have their Q/A equivalent. India (mostly) speaks english at a level that allows them to participate in the "original" Stackoverflow. Arabic? As much as there is a big population, I would venture that there is not enough demand. Brazil, OTOH, is a reasonably industrialized country with some industries that are quit…

What about French or Spanish?

They would be good candidates. But look at the numbers of Internet usage in Brazil. It makes perfect sense to have Portuguese as the first. It doesn't mean that it will be the only one.

Re: Announcing Stack Overflow in Portuguese

#30

The majority of SQL injection vulnerabilities found by searching for unsanitized input at GitHub is by Portugese or Spanish users, especially in PHP. I am not trying to generalize, but it seems to me that a StackOverflow in Portugese perhaps is not such a bad idea.

Any source for this statement? I ask this because Portugal has a population of 10.5 million people while Brazil has 201 million people and both have Portuguese as the official language.
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