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Dutch Court of Appeals overturns Pirate Bay IP blockade

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Re: Dutch Court of Appeals overturns Pirate Bay IP blockade

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Post by alexqgb »

brokenparser wrote: post #43
fooqux wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the experience that you mention is how you get your media to begin with. The music and movie industries have tried their best to make it as hard as possible to consume legally bought media on anything other than what they want you to watch it on. Some of this is due to piracy concerns, some due to various contracts (you will only allow this movie on Starz for the first 6 months), but all of it is in their con…

Funny, the copyright maffia hates the Internet but then goes on to require it in order to consume content on blessed physical media.

Little known fact: no major studio uses e-mail. It's all carrier pigeons and smoke signals. Why? Because they "hate the Internet". So you're right, using contemporary technology in this one instance is really weird.

Re: Dutch Court of Appeals overturns Pirate Bay IP blockade

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furyg3 wrote: post #7
belorn wrote: post #6

One of the few a great judgment in recent time. It is nice to see that cost–benefit still count for something, rather than emotional response backed by government control. It has been around 200 years, and society has changed for the better by it. Every time government trail away from it, especially in punishment, it seem to be caused by corruption. Good that the Court of Appeals of The Hague can recognize and see it…

This is subjective, but as an American living in NL I've been fairly impressed with the Dutch government's (parliament, cities, unions, within parties, and courts) pragmatism. While there are cases of people maintaining hard-line statements, it seems to be less common than in normal US discourse.

Not having any party with anything close to a majority in parliament helps enormously here (that might be a symptom, rather than a cause, though)

There are very few things that you will find a straight majority for in parliament, so hard-lining will get you nowhere.

Re: Dutch Court of Appeals overturns Pirate Bay IP blockade

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Post by vinceguidry »

malandrew wrote: post #50
tomp wrote: post #17

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> for something as unimportant as money Fixed that for you. Music and movies are huge industries. BTW, I think they are loosing. Sure, some laws are being passed, but there are several generations alive today that consider piracy something normal and natural. It's all a matter of who is in charge; today's leaders are old, they don't consider piracy to be good and normal. When we (our generation) become old and get in…

Music is actually much much much smaller than people realize. It's given as much importance as movies, but I don't even think it's 1/10 the size of movies.

And even the movie business is pretty small. This infographic puts the size of the entire market at a fairly paltry 65 billion a year.

http://bitshare.cm/post/2082365481/the-film-industry-is-big-...

Disney's studio arm pulled in just shy of 6 billion last year. Parks and Resorts brought in 14 billion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company#Revenue...

Re: Dutch Court of Appeals overturns Pirate Bay IP blockade

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Post by rplnt »

Someone wrote: post #49
alkonaut wrote: post #32

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Yes, an attack on a particular protocol is an attack on that particular protocol. The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.

So, if the police confiscates your car after finding you DUI/closes a hotel because it has been repeatedly found to operate a child pornogrpahy ring/locks up somebody who uses his gun to kill people, that's an attack on car driving in general/on the general idea of running a hotel/on the right to bear arms? I see that more nuanced.

You are way off with your analogy and I'm pretty sure you know it too.

Re: Dutch Court of Appeals overturns Pirate Bay IP blockade

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Post by fooqux »

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #48
fooqux wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the experience that you mention is how you get your media to begin with. The music and movie industries have tried their best to make it as hard as possible to consume legally bought media on anything other than what they want you to watch it on. Some of this is due to piracy concerns, some due to various contracts (you will only allow this movie on Starz for the first 6 months), but all of it is in their con…

That's an odd experience with Bluray, given that most players simply can't connect to the internet so could never download updated keys. To me it sounds like a PS3 specific thing, rather than a problem with Bluray. I get that to you the experience is poor regardless but the problem to me sounds like Sony rather than Bluray.

From what I've read online, this is a common occurrence on many blue ray players. The AACS keys expire every 12-18 months and require an update if you want to play any movies with newer keys.

I don't know how this is handled on older, unconnected players.

Re: Dutch Court of Appeals overturns Pirate Bay IP blockade

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Post by hnisnotreddit »

brokenparser wrote: post #34
neals wrote: post #25

The ISP just said on the news that the blockade that they had to apply since 2012 was actually very helpful for their case. Independent research (from TNO) showed no decline in torrent traffic and literally no effect of the blockade. The judge ruled the blockade "ineffective" and said "there are other means of copyright protection that make more sense".

TIL TNO is the new NSA

congrats. you compelled me to create an account.

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