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Re: Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

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I keep dreaming of an open source, distributed search engine and social network. But I guess things will have to get much worse before they get better.

Don't give up, it can still happen. A lot of the bits and pieces exist to do that already, we just need to keep raising awareness, and maybe get a well-heeled individual or company (or two, or three) to throw some support behind the whole thing.

Re: Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

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That's what the Internet Archive is for :)

And there's an interesting idea for a browser extension. If the page the user is looking for no longer exists, check the internet archive and present that instead.

I use this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/resurrect-pag... It's not automatic, but I guess it wouldn't be hard.

Re: Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

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Why ironic?

Google (which started as a search engine, way back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth) is now increasingly working on _narrowing down_ the search options available to users.

Nail in the head.

All they want now is displaying more results = more ad revenue.

Re: Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

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The promise was that, as search engines get better, there would be no need for bookmarking and downloading, since all the content in the world is only one sloppy search query away. Somehow, I seem to have ignored this stubbornly and instead bookmarked pages, downloaded videos and copied strings (!) out of the web for years. Not that it did me much good, I now have thousands of inconsistently sorted bookmarks and a bu…

Evernote

Re: Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

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The promise was that, as search engines get better, there would be no need for bookmarking and downloading, since all the content in the world is only one sloppy search query away. Somehow, I seem to have ignored this stubbornly and instead bookmarked pages, downloaded videos and copied strings (!) out of the web for years. Not that it did me much good, I now have thousands of inconsistently sorted bookmarks and a bu…

You can't really trust bookmarks either. Most of my bookmarks are dead either because the site is now gone or because some blog author decided to change their path format and didn't bother setup 301 redirects.

This is exactly right and the sole reason I use Evernote for its full page clipping abilities.

Re: Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

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Any alternatives? I asked about this two days ago but got no answers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7124132 Also, I know that "?tbm=dsc" works but I expect the quality of the results to start falling (it already has for a while) since Google probably isn't going to work to improve the filter.

http://boardreader.com/ is a search engine of just forums. Pretty useful.

Also this search list of Q&A sites might be useful: http://nuggety.com/u/nuggety/questions-and-answers

Re: Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

#58

This is the final nail in the coffin of DejaNews. Just another step in Google's continuing mission to make their Search product worse & worse. It's baffling.

It feels like they will eventually remove all features except maybe for the get lucky button, if we are lucky.

Re: Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

#59
Everyone is dissing Google here. Perhaps understandably so since most folks in HN are advanced users and an advanced search feature was removed.

Google is driven by data and sorry but advanced users are a mere blip in that data. I can bet there was a gazilion user studies that showed that your grandma was super confused when 10 options would pop up when she pressed 'More'. The same studies showed that she was much less so confused when 4 options were presented, increasing engine usability for her.

My point here is that some folks attribute sinister motives (more search dollars), while the actual motive is just to make the interface usable for more people.

(Disclaimer: I work at Google, not in search though.)

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I am afraid I don't understand. Duck Duck Go searches google, so if you are having a problem with a google service, how would this help?

No, it uses bing + a little secret sauce, as I understand it. Edit: "Link results are API driven, though top links may come from other sources. Link sources include: Bing, Yahoo, Yandex, Blekko, WolframAlpha, and many others."[1] "DuckDuckGo gets its results from over one hundred sources, including DuckDuckBot (our own crawler), crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, which are stored in our own index), Yahoo! (through…

Ah, my mistake, I confused it with scroogle. I tried to upvote you but I don't think I have enough Karma.
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