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The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

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Re: The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

#61

If someone tried to bring dog to my office, next thing I will do would be to ask permission to work from home. If that doesn't work, I'd look up for another job. If that doesn't work, I'd buy rats and cocroaches, and bring them to work with me as "pets". But, there's no way I'm going to sit in the office full of "nice dogs" and pretend that doesn't affect me. EDIT: Just to clarify, I am not allergic to dogs and yes,…

I think there's an important difference between starting from scratch this way, and trying to transition an existing, say, hundred person company from scratch to this policy.

Presumably at the interview it's pretty obvious what's going on, and people ought to be fairly self-filtering about this. Diversity is good, right? You ought to be matching the company to your needs anyhow.

Re: The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

#62

At my current job I bring my dog to the office every day and there are no issues whatsoever, but I have some personal rules when it comes to bring my dog to work: - no dog if there are allergic people around, - no barking, - no wandering around, - DEFINITELY no pee and poo in the building, - CLEANING outside the company building, - I am responsible for the dog's actions. Disclaimer: my dog is trained by me and really…

I suppose that SCRUM meeting really _was_ shit?

Re: The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

#63
We had an un-official 'dogs allowed' policy at my last job. It all began with the owners wife bringing their dog in when she'd come to visit.

Then one day I brought my Bullmastiff in because not many people were going to be in the office that day, and she's content with just sitting under my desk for hours on end. Girls in the front office would bring in their dogs who were pretty well behaved. It was nice meeting other peoples dogs.

Then another developer brought in his Beagle. A dog howling every 10 minutes is very, very distracting, especially in an open-layout office. Someone in customer service brought in their 1 year old Labrador, who I'm convinced was fed a diet consisting of canine Red Bull.

At some point, people in graphics started bringing their cats in. I came in one morning to find a cat on my chair. I did not bring my dog that day or things would have probably gotten very interesting.

If I took anything away from that, I'd say pets are okay on Fridays, or holidays when not everyone is in the building. But for every day, pets are just too dang distracting. Eating out of trashcans, snooping around the office, scaring visitors, and just people in general wasting time playing with pets all day. The biggest benefit is taking your pooch for a walk at lunch time is a great break.

Re: The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

#64

"Some serious incidents took place during this time, like bites. Most of the bites were workers from other companies onsite to do their normal rounds, like delivery drivers. Fortunately no serious injuries ever materialized [...]" What are the insurance ramifications of all these dogs? I'm astonished that the fact that dogs have already attacked people at SparkFun didn't cause them to rescind the policy of allowing d…

If I went onsite say as a consultant to a company and was bitten by a dog that had been approved by management, I would be looking to sue them into oblivion.

Re: The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

#65
As someone who works at a company about the same size as Sparkfun, that also allows dogs, I am surprised by two things: the number of dogs they have coming in and the vitriolic responses to it here.

We have probably between one and two dozen dogs that come in regularly. There is a "doggy committee" made up of volunteers that meets about once a month. No software to manage them yet, but a little bit of occasional drama about them. I can imagine it being more intense if we had three dozen dogs each day.

I get along with cats easier than dogs, but I love having either around. They and their owners are one of my favourite parts of the place I work. I sit beside someone with a dog who greets me every day, and it might be the best part of my whole day.

Anyway, I just want to throw some non-hate into the top level of this post. I get that some people do not like dogs or are unfortunately allergic. There are clearly reasons to not have dogs around, and it simply would not work in many environments. But there are also a lot of dog owners and people who are just cool with the companionship, and for them dog-presence is a serious plus.

Either way, it's great to have insight into how other organisations dealt with this stuff.

Re: The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

#67
The problem with banning dogs now is that it has become an actual benefit to working at this company. Like rescinding work-at-home privileges. You will get very unhappy employees who feel they were misled and picked the wrong job offer.

So not exactly an easy solution as suggested.

Re: The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

#69

"Some serious incidents took place during this time, like bites. Most of the bites were workers from other companies onsite to do their normal rounds, like delivery drivers. Fortunately no serious injuries ever materialized [...]" What are the insurance ramifications of all these dogs? I'm astonished that the fact that dogs have already attacked people at SparkFun didn't cause them to rescind the policy of allowing d…

> Just how serious does a bite have to be, anyway?

When there are medical bills involved.

Re: The problems SparkFun has letting people bring dogs into work

#70
Omg, enough with the dog madness. I already have issues with domisticated animals whose sole purpose is to entertain a human. You have this aninal who does nothing all day, except wait for you, this is cruel. My advice, get some human friends, it will probably cost you less money also.

I had heard about offices with dog, and I never understood how this could be tolerated by employees without dogs. I can only imagine trying to work, but all I hear is random people talking to dogs with their dog talking voice.

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