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Ask HN: cheap ways to host your own email server?

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What are some relatively-cheap ways of hosting your own secure email server that's easy to bring back up in case of power outages or other common reasons for downtime?

This was initially inspired by and posted on the "Gmail is down" thread, but it got drowned out quickly by our collective lack of organization. (Why didn't we just start with a "me too" thread that people could respond to?)

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I use a managed cPanel host and setup "catch-all" email addresses on my domains to forward to my gmail account. In the event of an outage or Google deciding to delete my gmail account I could change the forwarder or simply begin to use cPanel's built in mail clients. Having your email hosted at your own domain is one of the easiest things to do to gain control over something you normally let somebody else manage.

As to running your own email server? Don't bother. Unless you plan to stay on top of exploits, DKIM keys and SPF records you'll wind up with serious mail delivery problems.

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I use a managed cPanel host and setup "catch-all" email addresses on my domains to forward to my gmail account. In the event of an outage or Google deciding to delete my gmail account I could change the forwarder or simply begin to use cPanel's built in mail clients. Having your email hosted at your own domain is one of the easiest things to do to gain control over something you normally let somebody else manage. As…

DKIM and SPF are not that hard to set up. And it's a low enough barrier for entry considering that's all we have to stop spammers.

Edit: not sure about SenderID, to be honest.

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I use a managed cPanel host and setup "catch-all" email addresses on my domains to forward to my gmail account. In the event of an outage or Google deciding to delete my gmail account I could change the forwarder or simply begin to use cPanel's built in mail clients. Having your email hosted at your own domain is one of the easiest things to do to gain control over something you normally let somebody else manage. As…

When was the last time anyone had to patch their qmail instance? When was the last time qmail even needed to be patched?

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I use a managed cPanel host and setup "catch-all" email addresses on my domains to forward to my gmail account. In the event of an outage or Google deciding to delete my gmail account I could change the forwarder or simply begin to use cPanel's built in mail clients. Having your email hosted at your own domain is one of the easiest things to do to gain control over something you normally let somebody else manage. As…

Where do people get these misguided notions about email? You don't need dkim or spf at all, few people check either, and they are just to prevent backscatter. Running your own mail server is trivially easy.

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I use a managed cPanel host and setup "catch-all" email addresses on my domains to forward to my gmail account. In the event of an outage or Google deciding to delete my gmail account I could change the forwarder or simply begin to use cPanel's built in mail clients. Having your email hosted at your own domain is one of the easiest things to do to gain control over something you normally let somebody else manage. As…

Where do people get these misguided notions about email? You don't need dkim or spf at all, few people check either, and they are just to prevent backscatter. Running your own mail server is trivially easy.

Can you point to a trivially easy set of instructions please? ;-)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do people get these misguided notions about email? You don't need dkim or spf at all, few people check either, and they are just to prevent backscatter. Running your own mail server is trivially easy.

Can you point to a trivially easy set of instructions please? ;-)

And to some document giving confidence that it wouldn't be dangerously insecure or vulnerable to common threats?

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I use a managed cPanel host and setup "catch-all" email addresses on my domains to forward to my gmail account. In the event of an outage or Google deciding to delete my gmail account I could change the forwarder or simply begin to use cPanel's built in mail clients. Having your email hosted at your own domain is one of the easiest things to do to gain control over something you normally let somebody else manage. As…

When was the last time anyone had to patch their qmail instance? When was the last time qmail even needed to be patched ?

qmail was once a great piece of software. Then it stopped being maintained, and it lived in a licensing no-man's land for quite a while that effectively prevented new maintainers and viable forks from existing.

It's no longer current technology and fails to comply with RFC changes that have happened since it was released, including but not limited to 6522, which standardizes bounce messages.

It still does very well at the job it was originally designed to do, but it's no longer a modern, usable tool. It doesn't belong in the modern email toolbox any longer.

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