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Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by abrowne »

dilap wrote: post #57
terhechte wrote: post #2

Coming from Vim, when I switched to Emacs, I found the starting aesthetic experience more than lacking (or, ugly). It took me some time (and a helpful HN discussion) until I found good themes and good plugins to make it look aesthetically pleasing (to my eyes, at least, after all people's tastes differ). If somebody is looking for a nice Emacs theme and feels that the OP is a bit too minimal, have a look at my Emacs…

Very interesting thing you've got going there, and I love the visual aesthetic. Two quick tips that you probably already know, but just in case it's useful to you or someone else: * Emacs can wrap lines at word boundaries, while intelligently preserving/extending indentation (something like this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8581161 ) * If you're using emacs on the mac, it's worth taking a look at the railwaycat…

I think you need to "brew tap railwaycat/emacsmacport" first to install that.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by vezzy-fnord »

throwaway_yy2Di wrote: post #60
yetanotherphd wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well another minority might view strip teases as an act of empowerment and self expression, and be made alienated and uncomfortable by your sex-negative viewpoint. How would you balance the interests of these two minorities?

Obviously the professional way! By inviting them to the center of the office to discuss frankly their viewpoints on sex until everyone quits from misery. I'd also scatter conservative religious pamphlets and dildos around the office to encourage everyone to participate. Because obviously it would deprive a reader to explain how to remove GUI widgets from an emacs frame [window], without making a metaphor of the windo…

Mind explaining where it was implied that the window represents a nude female? Just because the post uses some racy humor with the striptease metaphor, doesn't mean it implies any particular sex.

This could just as easily be a man, woman, android or RMS himself stripping (and considering that the whole post is at the backdrop of an RMS quote taken deliberately out of context, I wouldn't be surprised if it was meant to evoke the latter).

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by TeMPOraL »

aaronem wrote: post #38
TeMPOraL wrote: post #27

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Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by sdegutis »

saulrh wrote: post #40
mercurial wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I try out emacs every few years. Every time, I get discouraged whenever I attempt to do something simple (change the theme, etc) by the amount of configuration necessary. I may try your repo, since it seems to have a lot of stuff already configured. The other thing is that Emacs is really slow to start as soon as you have a few plugins, compared to vim.

Slow emacs startup isn't a problem thanks to the new emacs-server stuff. Running emacs with the "--daemon" flag will cause it to do initialization, fork into the background, and become persistent; now edit files using commands like "emacsclient $filename". Eamcsclient will connect to the daemonized emacs server and have it open $filename, bringing it forward either in an existing frame or (using the "-nw" or "-nc" fl…

There are serious problems trying to run it as a server on Mac OS X. Basically it's not a real option on this platofrm.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by npsimons »

dilap wrote: post #39
swah wrote: post #7

Ì wonder if some Emacs people intend to migrate to LightTable in a few years?

I thought it was a fair question. You're being downvoted by overly-sensitive emacs junkies :) I know I'm keeping an eye on lighttable (I'm an emacs users since forevs) -- it's definitely the only modern editor that seems geared to possibly being a match for emacs in the flexibility and customizability departments. But of course, historically, emacs just incorporates whatever's interesting in other editors and continu…

Much like Linux is "the last OS": http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=101317&cid=8633695

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by vsbuffalo »

As a long time emacs user (and lover) I wish RMS and other emacs developers would take his quote to heart more in emacs development. Emacs is shipped with too many things.

Emacs finally has a really nice package manager, so I'd love to see a version with minimal default packages. Do I really need java-mode if I never, ever will use Java? Calc when I have R? SMTP support? No, I need absolutely none of this.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by sdegutis »

dotemacs wrote: post #48
sdegutis wrote: post #3

I switched to Emacs a year and a half ago when I started using Clojure, and customized it heavily for the first few months. But I avoid customizing it any more. I'm never truly satisfied with what I end up with, and I hit too many frustrating walls trying to make it just right. One major problem for me is the plugin ecosystem. There's Melpa which is easy to use and has the most up-to-date packages, but they're built…

Are you sure that MELPA has issues? I've been running with it since it started and one thing that I can say about it is that its been a joy to use. Hats off to milkypostman & sanityinc for maintaining it. If you do have an issue, I suggest you open it on MELPA's GitHub issue page and I'm pretty confident that you'll get a quick response. As for tweaking Emacs' config, yea, I have to admit, I've spent time on it too a…

The issue Melpa has is that it builds from HEAD, whereas many package authors treat HEAD as a working state that should not be used directly. Melpa doesn't (or didn't last time I checked) have support for building off tags or non-master branches, which would solve this. And if I remember correctly, when I raised this issue, he disagreed on some philosophical grounds. So it's an inherent problem in Melpa.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by terhechte »

dilap wrote: post #57
terhechte wrote: post #2

Coming from Vim, when I switched to Emacs, I found the starting aesthetic experience more than lacking (or, ugly). It took me some time (and a helpful HN discussion) until I found good themes and good plugins to make it look aesthetically pleasing (to my eyes, at least, after all people's tastes differ). If somebody is looking for a nice Emacs theme and feels that the OP is a bit too minimal, have a look at my Emacs…

Very interesting thing you've got going there, and I love the visual aesthetic. Two quick tips that you probably already know, but just in case it's useful to you or someone else: * Emacs can wrap lines at word boundaries, while intelligently preserving/extending indentation (something like this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8581161 ) * If you're using emacs on the mac, it's worth taking a look at the railwaycat…

Thanks for these tips, I'm already using the railwaycat fork, and it is really good. I compiled it myself though, didn't know that I can get it via brew now. That is fantastic, as I'm still on 24.3.1 :)

Also, I didn't know about the wrap-while-keeping indentation, that's something I always wanted. Will try it out later. Thanks!

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