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As requested by zerr at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7108449. Here's the 2013 Bay Area salary poll: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5802295.
Maybe better edit the question so that it applies to the whole Germany. You'd get a much larger data set, and there are not really big variations between major cities regarding salaries.
Maybe better edit the question so that it applies to the whole Germany. You'd get a much larger data set, and there are not really big variations between major cities regarding salaries.
I disagree. There are rather huge gaps between Berlin vs. cities like Frankfurt or Munich. Living costs are much lower in Berlin, and so naturally, wages are lower, too.
Either that or I would love to hear what you do !
Maybe better edit the question so that it applies to the whole Germany. You'd get a much larger data set, and there are not really big variations between major cities regarding salaries.
I disagree. There are rather huge gaps between Berlin vs. cities like Frankfurt or Munich. Living costs are much lower in Berlin, and so naturally, wages are lower, too.
If you make more than 60k the living costs aren't much of a concern for you anymore.
Also, "without bonuses" part makes no sense, since in Germany some bonuses are contractually enforced and employer doesn't have an option not to pay them. For example, Weihnachtsgeld (Christamas money) is usually 1 or 1/2 of monthly salary and is defined in every contract. In addition to that comes the yearly bonus, which is rarely not awarded in its entirety. In my company it's about 15% of salary for previous year,…
Also, "without bonuses" part makes no sense, since in Germany some bonuses are contractually enforced and employer doesn't have an option not to pay them. For example, Weihnachtsgeld (Christamas money) is usually 1 or 1/2 of monthly salary and is defined in every contract. In addition to that comes the yearly bonus, which is rarely not awarded in its entirety. In my company it's about 15% of salary for previous year,…
There have been rulings that yearly, regular bonuses have to be paid partially if you leave before the payday. For "Weihnachtsgeld", which is a fixed bonus, this is the reason why modern contracts usually don't include it anymore but just put it on the monthly salary. See the link[1] for a recent ruling (german, sorry).
Still, a lot of stuff that would be a "bonus" in the US is included in Germany. Contracts in germany include mandatory health care, social security, the whole range.
[1]: http://www.zeit.de/karriere/beruf/2013-11/urteil-anspruch-we...
Maybe better edit the question so that it applies to the whole Germany. You'd get a much larger data set, and there are not really big variations between major cities regarding salaries.
I disagree. There are rather huge gaps between Berlin vs. cities like Frankfurt or Munich. Living costs are much lower in Berlin, and so naturally, wages are lower, too.