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Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by aaronem »

swah wrote: post #36
taeric wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am curious what the upside of doing so would be.

I'd like to see graphics inline, for example. Another one: in Emacs, to display inline docs, you either use the modeline, or a buffer, or a tooltip. It could be nicer... The amount of hackyness needed for adding something like a Markdown preview bothers me.. To me, LT could be Emacs with better rendering. I really enjoyed learning Emacs, its a great design, like an open-world game. I want more apps to capture that.

Emacs supports inline graphics; you don't see the capability used all that often, but it certainly exists, and has done for quite some time.

Inline documentation doesn't seem all that desirable in the first place; from the screenshots I've seen, it looks like it would get in the way, which documentation in a separate buffer doesn't do. (I'm half tempted to implement inline documentation for Emacs Lisp mode as a proof of concept, mind you, but I really don't see the point of it.)

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by auvrw »

bzg wrote: post #21
agumonkey wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd bet on a clang/gcc evolution, emacs has made adaptation/absorption a native specialty, LT will probably give it a push.

Emacs loves diversity. As a dinner.

this, but without the contentious overtones.

wait, let me back up for a moment wrt the original article. that screenshot in the article is not emacs. i can't give you a screenshot of emacs, because emacs doesn't even depend on a windowing system for near-maximum awesomeness. it is my go-to text editor, and i very likely will (progn several of these snippets into my .el files.

that said, we do have have windowing systems now, with some better ones on the way, not to mention touchscreens. i haven't tried out lighttable yet, but i intend to, and i greatly hope that either (1) lighttable follows in emacs footsteps of being fully scriptable (as opposed to the adopting a plugin model that's so typical of java ides) or (2) emacs devours all of that beyond-code-folding -- how best to say it? -- code-exploding (?) awesomeness that lighttable attempts to bring and that, to me, appears to map perfectly onto this new world we find ourselves in where computers are not giant boxes attached to printers anymore but are, instead, whole buildings attached to touchscreens.

doesn't matter if your program's a crocodile or wildabeast: adapt or die.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by rbonvall »

fafner wrote: post #31
anuragramdasan wrote: post #11

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What line numbering plugin is this? Looks very similar to vim numbers. I've been trying to find something like that for emacs for a while now. All I found wasLinum mode, which clutters the UI and doesnt give relative line numbering.

Why do you want line numbers next to your code at all? Aren't they just visual clutter? The current line number is shown in the mode-line anyway.

At least in Vim, line numbers help to move around and operate on text really quickly.

Move cursor to ninth line above: 9k

Delete from here to seventh line below: 7dd

Copy thirteenth line above after second line below: :-13t+2

Having line numbers always visible (either relative or absolute) helps for doing this operations quickly.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by euoia »

shocks wrote: post #13

Nice! For vim I like to use " remove the toolbar set guioptions-=T " remove scrollbars set guioptions-=L set guioptions-=r

And in macvim:

  if has("gui_macvim")
    autocmd GUIEnter * set fullscreen
  endif

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by vezzy-fnord »

throwaway_yy2Di wrote: post #28

If you reflect for a moment, obviously a minority of HN will be made alienated and uncomfortable by this sexualized humor. Do you really want this?

Thank heavens, I was hanging by the edge of my seat waiting for someone to make the inevitable comment.

Re: Emacs, naked

#46

Post by sparkie »

pivo wrote: post #32
mercurial wrote: post #25

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I try out emacs every few years. Every time, I get discouraged whenever I attempt to do something simple (change the theme, etc) by the amount of configuration necessary. I may try your repo, since it seems to have a lot of stuff already configured. The other thing is that Emacs is really slow to start as soon as you have a few plugins, compared to vim.

It's a lot better, and easier, in Emacs 24.3.x. Just run M-x customize-theme And pick from a list of themes. New themes are installed via the new, built-in package manager: M-x package-list-packages

Might also be worth trying out theme-park-mode[1], which allows you to easily cycle through installed themes till you find something you like.

[1]:https://github.com/emacsmirror/theme-park-mode

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by _delirium »

aaronem wrote: post #41
swah wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see graphics inline, for example. Another one: in Emacs, to display inline docs, you either use the modeline, or a buffer, or a tooltip. It could be nicer... The amount of hackyness needed for adding something like a Markdown preview bothers me.. To me, LT could be Emacs with better rendering. I really enjoyed learning Emacs, its a great design, like an open-world game. I want more apps to capture that.

Emacs supports inline graphics; you don't see the capability used all that often, but it certainly exists, and has done for quite some time. Inline documentation doesn't seem all that desirable in the first place; from the screenshots I've seen, it looks like it would get in the way, which documentation in a separate buffer doesn't do. (I'm half tempted to implement inline documentation for Emacs Lisp mode as a proof…

> Emacs supports inline graphics; you don't see the capability used all that often, but it certainly exists, and has done for quite some time.

Fwiw, it was added in Emacs 21 (2001): http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/New-...

Previously that had been one of the differentiators between GNU Emacs and XEmacs, the latter more enthusiastically adopting GUI-, image-, and mouse-related features. I believe XEmacs got inline-image support sometime in the mid-'90s, and showed it off by including a display of the XEmacs logo in the default startup buffer.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by dotemacs »

sdegutis wrote: post #3

I switched to Emacs a year and a half ago when I started using Clojure, and customized it heavily for the first few months. But I avoid customizing it any more. I'm never truly satisfied with what I end up with, and I hit too many frustrating walls trying to make it just right. One major problem for me is the plugin ecosystem. There's Melpa which is easy to use and has the most up-to-date packages, but they're built…

Are you sure that MELPA has issues? I've been running with it since it started and one thing that I can say about it is that its been a joy to use. Hats off to milkypostman & sanityinc for maintaining it.

If you do have an issue, I suggest you open it on MELPA's GitHub issue page and I'm pretty confident that you'll get a quick response.

As for tweaking Emacs' config, yea, I have to admit, I've spent time on it too and things can always improve.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by [deleted] »

yetanotherphd wrote: post #35
throwaway_yy2Di wrote: post #28

If you reflect for a moment, obviously a minority of HN will be made alienated and uncomfortable by this sexualized humor. Do you really want this?

Well another minority might view strip teases as an act of empowerment and self expression, and be made alienated and uncomfortable by your sex-negative viewpoint. How would you balance the interests of these two minorities?

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