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Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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post #30

Excellent. If engineers and technologists refuse to take personal political and ethical responsibility for the future they help build, they need to be reminded to do so. We need more of this.

^^ left-wing degeneracy for all to see. popcorn

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you honestly think that carrying a weapon in the san francisco bay area is a good idea?

Yes. But clearly you have an opposing view on the right to defend yourself with a firearm. No need to make this into a gun debate.

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Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

#54
post #21

If this guy and all of his friends would actually get off their lazy butts and get a job, they might understand the need for other people to work. We all need to make money to live, have a roof over our heads, and feed our family. Just because you don't have a job or an income doesn't mean other people shouldn't either.

That's not really a fair comment and it trivializes the issues these guys are trying to raise.

Getting a job isn't the issue; it's a complex mix of the privileged position and hard work that led to them being able to get that job, which these people cant do and the extremely obvious difference in economic status having that job grants, which includes people being evicted from their homes so that higher paying individuals can move in.

You can see how people can get upset about it.

You can't just tell them to go get jobs; that won't solve anything. All it does is make you feel better, for now.

If you want to solve the problems like this you have to actually engage with the community which is feeling disenfranchised. No one wants to, but problems like this don't just 'magically' go away.

(To be clear, I don't like what's happening here at all, but comments like yours are inflammatory and make things worse for the people on both sides)

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

#55
post #2

This is shameful behavior - it is tantamount to mob rule & harassment, with the effective statement that "We strongly dislike what you're doing, so we are going to disturb your private residence and prevent you from going to work". No person who isn't committing a serious crime deserves that whatever his/her beliefs.

Meanwhile in another thread, people are lamenting the idea that the government can require you to get a permit to peacefully protest, and arrest you otherwise...

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

#56
post #21

If this guy and all of his friends would actually get off their lazy butts and get a job, they might understand the need for other people to work. We all need to make money to live, have a roof over our heads, and feed our family. Just because you don't have a job or an income doesn't mean other people shouldn't either.

Well that's just crazy right-wing hate radio talk, man! /sarc

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

#57
post #36

This is getting to be a bit absurd. I understand and can sympathize with the plight of folks who feel that they are becoming economically marginalized in the region, because in many ways it is really happening. But public badgering of mid to low-level folks is not a way to gain a lot of support. It's like damaging the lobby of a Bank of America or smashing the windows of a McDonalds -- all it does is ruin the day for…

The analogy between Google and McDonalds only works in regard to commercial creepiness. It does not sufficiently cover collaboration with the surveillance state's organs.

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

#58
The more reasonable direct action would be to simply not use a smartphone, not use the internet (or Google Maps), and not host a website. Opt out of the whole thing. I'm not clear on how these people can justify blocking the buses and showing up at people's houses, but then organize using Google's products.

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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post #2

This is shameful behavior - it is tantamount to mob rule & harassment, with the effective statement that "We strongly dislike what you're doing, so we are going to disturb your private residence and prevent you from going to work". No person who isn't committing a serious crime deserves that whatever his/her beliefs.

I agree.

I'd imagine if a bunch of google employees did something similar at the house of the person who organized this protest, it wouldn't be seen as being fair.

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