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Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Post by danielweber »

hgsigala wrote: post #17
walshemj wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I where a Googler working in SF id have to start seriously thinking about getting a PPW license. PPW is short hand for the Uk licence to carry a gun for personal protection - and yes there are tech companies that do have staff that do that.

Do you honestly think that carrying a weapon in the san francisco bay area is a good idea?

I can come up with lots of reasons for why carrying a concealed weapon is more likely to be harmful than beneficial in these circumstances.

But why is it a bad idea to carry a weapon in SF? Are people stopped and frisked? Are there metal detectors everywhere? Are there pickpockets all over the place that will steal your weapon and use it against you?

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Post by walshemj »

mgunes wrote: post #30

Excellent. If engineers and technologists refuse to take personal political and ethical responsibility for the future they help build, they need to be reminded to do so. We need more of this.

so Googlers should take things into their own hands and take "action direct" against those harassing them.

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Post by [deleted] »

walshemj wrote: post #8
Bahamut wrote: post #2

This is shameful behavior - it is tantamount to mob rule & harassment, with the effective statement that "We strongly dislike what you're doing, so we are going to disturb your private residence and prevent you from going to work". No person who isn't committing a serious crime deserves that whatever his/her beliefs.

If I where a Googler working in SF id have to start seriously thinking about getting a PPW license. PPW is short hand for the Uk licence to carry a gun for personal protection - and yes there are tech companies that do have staff that do that.

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Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Post by icebraining »

watwut wrote: post #26
doctorwho wrote: post #12

Where were these uber-concerned citizens while George Bush was raping the US and Iraq? Why are they not protesting at the White House or stopping NSA employees from getting to work? But yeah, trample the rights of individual people, that will help. It's easy (and a lot less dangerous) to hate and pester a guy who makes more money than you. Forget about who's ruining the country and focus on the guy you think is respo…

Maybe they through Iraq war is a good idea and support surveillance state? I do not understand what SF issue is really about, but it seems to be local problem unrelated to international or security politic.

The text is TFA is strongly anti-surveillance state.

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Post by pavel_lishin »

BryanB55 wrote: post #18
walshemj wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I where a Googler working in SF id have to start seriously thinking about getting a PPW license. PPW is short hand for the Uk licence to carry a gun for personal protection - and yes there are tech companies that do have staff that do that.

Good luck. I'd encourage this even if you are not a Google employee. You'll probably want to move out of California if you want the right to defend yourself and family though. Getting a concealed carry license there is next to impossible.

> Good luck. I'd encourage this even if you are not a Google employee.

How come?

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Post by crashandburn4 »

Xdes wrote: post #38

This is a good example of what the liberal democratic movement should be about: policing corporations. Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and the rest of them will never end their reprehensible behavior from lawsuits or other slaps on the wrists. Until there is a boot-on-ground movement to obstruct these corporations and their employees they will continue to act without consequence using their hoards of capital.

what negative things do you really think google are doing with their capital? if you're talking about rising house prices in san francisco making it difficult for people to get housing and apartments I understand, but do you specifically blame google and other tech companies for that? is there something else that has made you angry about this? I am genuinely curious as I personally don't see anything wrong with the companies actions and do not agree with a protest that ( I think) constitutes personal harassment. full disclosure I'm from the UK and somewhat removed from the situation so there may be news stories that have passed me by, if you think they're relevant please link them.

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Post by chroem »

smtddr wrote: post #24

I feel for the plight[1] these people are facing, I really do and I want to help. _BUT_ if you started showing up at my home protesting and making my family uncomfortable, that creates a different problem entirely. Anyways I'm assuming this site is fake because I can't find this being reported anywhere else... and I assume the protesters know better than to pull a stunt like this. 1. Let's be clear though, this is a…

What they're doing is trying to make it socially unacceptable to assist the NSA/ DoD, and quite frankly it's overdue. I get the feeling that most of the criticism here against the protesters is because HN identifies with the Google employee(s), not because the protesters are wrong. It's a purely emotional reaction.

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Post by keithpeter »

csbrooks wrote: post #16

I wonder what the person did? If it were me, I'd be tempted to just pop out the back way, and take the train to work or something. I'm sure the protesters are hoping for a big confrontation. OK, actually, if it was me I'd stay home and peek through my windows, take a bunch of pictures, and write up a blog post about it. I kinda want a group of crazies to protest outside my house, it sounds sort of exciting.

I've had to cross picket lines (not outside my house). Not fun.
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