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Re: Tijuana Airport Parking, Just Over the Border

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Post by monkeynotes »

carlob wrote: post #20
jasonkester wrote: post #14

I guess it's cool that San Diego will get another accessible airport out of the deal, but it seems like this will otherwise just kill off another good thing . I bet that guy saving $1,000 on his flights doesn't mind the hour of extra work it takes him to do so, and that the people taking advantage of this little arbitrage are all fine with it too. But it's plain to see that on Day One of the new bridge thing, airfare…

Diesel is still cheaper both absolutely and by distance driven in most European countries even if the penetration of Diesel vehicles is much higher than in the US.

Diesel in the UK and France, in my own experience, is more expensive per litre than petrol. Diesel is more expensive partly because all the tight regulations on emissions, low sulfur and all nonsense.

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Post by yummyfajitas »

jasonkester wrote: post #14

I guess it's cool that San Diego will get another accessible airport out of the deal, but it seems like this will otherwise just kill off another good thing . I bet that guy saving $1,000 on his flights doesn't mind the hour of extra work it takes him to do so, and that the people taking advantage of this little arbitrage are all fine with it too. But it's plain to see that on Day One of the new bridge thing, airfare…

But it's plain to see that on Day One of the new bridge thing, airfares will adjust so that now it costs exactly $12-$19 less to fly out of Tijuana vs San Diego (adjusted based on whatever silly fee they put in place to walk across that bridge). No more $1,000 savings.

This is true, there will likely not be $1000 savings for Tijuana relative to San Diego. But that's not the relevant counterfactual.

What is likely to happen is prices in San Diego will be $500 cheaper than they would be without the bridge and in Tijuana they will be $500 more. (The $500 number is taken from oversimplifying and assuming the airports are of equal size, and it might be more or less. The point is price will drop in SD since supply increased and will rise in Tijuana since demand increased.)

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Post by jtheory »

monkeynotes wrote: post #21
carlob wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Diesel is still cheaper both absolutely and by distance driven in most European countries even if the penetration of Diesel vehicles is much higher than in the US.

Diesel in the UK and France, in my own experience, is more expensive per litre than petrol. Diesel is more expensive partly because all the tight regulations on emissions, low sulfur and all nonsense.

I've been living in France (and driving a diesel Peugeot 206) since 2006; diesel (gazole) is always cheaper than standard petrol (and that's part of why I bought this car). See: http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/

You do seem to be correct about the UK, though -- diesel is a bit more expensive than basic unleaded petrol.

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Post by VLM »

rmc wrote: post #11
jpatokal wrote: post #2

The Swiss-French airports mentioned in the article are Basel-Mulhouse and Geneva: http://www.euroairport.com/en/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroAirport_Basel%E2%80%93Mulh... http://www.gva.ch/en/desktopdefault.aspx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_International_Airport Unlike the Tijuana project, which is an airport in Mexico with a bridge to the US, in both BSL and GVA you could use either the French or Swiss…

In the Schengen Zone, you can just drive across the border, there might be a flag at the border to tell you when you've crossed (or more importantly) a sign telling you the new road traffic laws. And of course citizens of both countries can live and work in each other for as long as they like. Can't see the USA & Mexico doing that.

"And of course citizens of both countries can live and work in each other for as long as they like. Can't see the USA & Mexico doing that."

We already do that, although its only one direction and technically not legal. Its actually pretty hard for a US dude to work illegally in .mx, like if you wanted to be a web dev in Mex City. Don't confuse a militarized photo op area thats about 500 feet wide with the rest of the thousands of miles of border.

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Post by ot »

aluhut wrote: post #3

So how does this annoying paywall work? I clicked the link 5 times. At the 6th time it showed me the full article without the url-tail. Can someone confirm that?

Also, if you google the title and click on the nytimes links from there, there is no paywall. It has always worked for me.

Probably they look at the referrer, but I don't know why they do it.

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Post by cjrp »

monkeynotes wrote: post #21
carlob wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Diesel is still cheaper both absolutely and by distance driven in most European countries even if the penetration of Diesel vehicles is much higher than in the US.

Diesel in the UK and France, in my own experience, is more expensive per litre than petrol. Diesel is more expensive partly because all the tight regulations on emissions, low sulfur and all nonsense.

But you also get more energy per litre than petrol, so it actually works out cheaper.

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Post by melling »

thangalin wrote: post #5
te_chris wrote: post #4

Having just spent a couple of weeks in Mexico the amount of paranoia and ignorance that their northern border mates tend to exhibit towards them is just completely ridiculous.

The wall between the United States and Mexico is a make-work project that will be dismantled in two hundred years once humanity grows out of its nationalistic tendencies. The North American countries should loosen borders, not tighten them, paving an open road to unification. Building a border barrier feels like erecting another Berlin Wall. Last I checked, we all live on the same planet, and are all tied to its fate…

In two hundred years, hopefully the Mexican economy will become much stronger and we won't need it. There is no wall to the north to Cananda. It's more likely that Americans would want to flee to Cananda than vice versa.

Btw, the Berlin Wall was built to keep people in, not keep them out. Understand the difference?

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Post by CreakyParrot »

_delirium wrote: post #10
CreakyParrot wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Not defending the concept or execution of that wall, but the list of reasons behind its existence includes many more things than just nationalistic tendencies. If and when it's dismantled, it'll say far more about the relative functioning of the two nations' respective institutions and economies than it will about any decrease in nationalistic tendencies. The original signatories to the Schengen Agreement were som…

Schengen doesn't only include rich Western European countries, though, but quite a bit of economic differences. Bulgaria and Romania are both poorer than Mexico, and yet there's no wall keeping them out of Germany or Scandinavia. Poland was also quite poor when it joined, though it's now slightly wealthier than Mexico.

That's why I specifically referred to the original signatories.

And it's far more complex than that. Germany faces severe demographic trends that have caused a labor shortage, and also has an economy that's highly dependent on manufacturing exports. Having an open door policy at that point makes an awful lot of sense.

The US is headed towards a similar situation, but will have a better labor pool in Mexico, and–Internet wisdom notwithstanding–the US is much better at integrating immigrant labor than Europe is.

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