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Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by goldenkey »

ryanSrich wrote: post #88
goldenkey wrote: post #53

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You can judge someone both on their merits and vices. Both Mega and this Baboom are pretty awesome and technically amazing. I'm listening to his album right now, and it's actually really catchy and enjoyable. The man has many talents, and he is using them for good at the moment. I'd say the U.S. government is way worse than someone who is 'self-centered.' The U.S. is a war machine, Dotcom is conceited. Now who should…

> The man has many talents, and he is using them for good at the moment. I'd say the U.S. government is way worse than someone who is 'self-centered.' That's akin to saying "well at least he's not killing innocent woman and children".

I mentioned the US because the charges on him are from the US government, lobbied by corporate interests.

Self-centered does not imply killing in any way, shape, or form. If you use the word akin, try not to be hyperbolic, it makes any intelligent reader immediately discard any validity you would have summoned.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by rangibaby »

gress wrote: post #93
rangibaby wrote: post #70

I have an iTunes library of a million bajillion tracks, a habit I picked up back in the 00s when downloading an entire album (or every album!) of an artist you liked was a novel thing and turned everyone into the digital equivalent of hoarders. And guess what? I pretty much listen to none of it anymore. My daily music dose now comes from Soundcloud, where active artists are putting up new tracks / mixes and giving th…

I'm curious - do you ever use genius to 'rediscover' music from your old collection, or is it just plain better to have a broader range available? I personally do a little of both - using either my own collection, or pandora and now iTunes Radio. I find myself using iTunes Radio more and more vs my own collection.

I actually do occasionally. Genius can make a pretty good mix from just some random song from years ago. iTunes radio isn't available here, but one of my buddies uses Grooveshark all the time.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by ryanSrich »

goldenkey wrote: post #101
ryanSrich wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The man has many talents, and he is using them for good at the moment. I'd say the U.S. government is way worse than someone who is 'self-centered.' That's akin to saying "well at least he's not killing innocent woman and children".

I mentioned the US because the charges on him are from the US government, lobbied by corporate interests. Self-centered does not imply killing in any way, shape, or form. If you use the word akin, try not to be hyperbolic, it makes any intelligent reader immediately discard any validity you would have summoned.

The point was that perhaps we should be setting our standards a bit higher than the US government.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by goggles99 »

zwdr wrote: post #29
jnardiello wrote: post #16

Kim Dotcom is an evil genius and a remarkable marketing guy. During his whole career no doubts he made a fortune out of other people work BUT, still, he can't be considered responsible for it because - in fact - he had MILLIONS of users who actually used the pirated content megaupload made available (and i dare anyone here to throw the first stone if they never used megaupload). So, while i'm not yet sure i like the…

Kimble is a fraud and an asshole. The only things he's good at are marketing and scamming. Just take a look at his history- insider trading, selling userdata from a BBS he ran to a lawyer, scamming the german telcos... the list is quite long. He's a good marketer, but one of the worst people I've read about. There's a file of his quotes (from the CCC mailing list) circulating, if you know german you should try readin…

>Kimble is a fraud and an asshole.

Sort of like Sean parker, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ETC...

All criminals. Do you consider them all in the same contempt?

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by Ygg2 »

davidw wrote: post #25
kubiiii wrote: post #17

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Steve Albini added figures to that : http://www.negativland.com/news/?page_id=17 Pretty famous & old article but still informative.

I don't doubt it's a messed up industry in many ways, but even "messed up" beats "rip off 100% and give nothing back" every time. For me as a fan of several groups, the key thing, economically speaking, is that the group is able to work on their music full time, thus maximizing their creative output and therefore, as someone who enjoys what they do, the benefits to me.

It's messed up, but the problem is Kit Dotcom steals, but at least he doesn't own any rights to music and you don't own him money once the dust settles. I could be wrong, but he is having making a Spotify clone, no?

If he is making a recording label, I'd avoid him more than the plague.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by Ygg2 »

tunesmith wrote: post #91
stonemetal wrote: post #85

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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/23482610186.shtml Here you go the numbers. The High point is your average signed artist gets $23 out of $1000 in sales or 2.3%.

I missed that the parent thread was limited to RIAA signed artists, and reacted to the blanket statement of the parent implying it was a truth for all artists (including unsigned and indie). Yes, it is true that big-label acts made most of their money from touring and merchandise. My point is that that fact does not translate to smaller-time indie artists. A lot of people tend to improperly point to the RIAA practice…

Why would I say that, when replying to context of RIAA vs Kim Dotcom debate.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by ramblerman »

zwdr wrote: post #73
yapcguy wrote: post #67

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> He tried to fit in the german hacker culture, but everyone knew he was a fraud. Meanwhile readers of "HackerNews" and all the self-proclaimed "Hackers" at YC start-ups and all the trendy new "Growth Hackers" of course have much more in common with the CCC and hacker culture... > he tried to recruit young people on the mailing list into shady jobs with promises of easy money Like every entrepreneur at venture backed…

>Meanwhile readers of "HackerNews" and all the self-proclaimed "Hackers" at YC start-ups and all the trendy new "Growth Hackers" of course have much more in common with the CCC and hacker culture... Please do a Ctrl+f again, I'm sure you wont find anything about HN or Start-Ups in my post. >Like every entrepreneur at venture backed start-ups, right?! Dunno, guess some startups are shady, guess some don't. Can we plea…

Not really, he's trying to show that in the context of HN and startups kimble was doing what a lot of people do here, just using a different medium
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