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Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by lectrick » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 3:35 PM UTC

vincie wrote: post #6

Haven't used OBSD in years, but I do use OpenSSH all the time. There are lots of stuff lurking in my OS of choice, NetBSD, that came from OBSD. So I would like to thank Mircea Popescu for his generosity. I can only muster $A50 I'm afraid. Edit: suckful spelling Just went to try to donate. Can't seem to do it at the donation page. Can't seem to enter my Australian address in any of the US and Canada links. I am certai…

> Just went to try to donate. Can't seem to do it at the donation page. Can't seem to enter my Australian address in any of the US and Canada links. I am certain my CC issuer will decline it. What gives?

A few years from now, when cryptocurrencies have all but taken over the existing payment networks, it will be for reasons EXACTLY like this bullshit. It should not be remotely this hard to exchange money between any 2 entities on the Internet.

Their donation page takes Bitcoin donations. I slung them a half a BTC. It took all of 5 seconds and then I moved on with my life. It was a sweet 5 seconds.

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by dobbsbob » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 3:49 PM UTC

mappu wrote: post #24

Source was slashdot: http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/14/01/20/0348247 A few people asking about the 'billionaire' citation, he is the man behind http://mpex.co/ , an options exchange (css, who needs it?) and he apparently has a net worth of over 700k BTC ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3449849#ms... )

His exchange mpex has that many coins he personally doesn't own that much. His often hilarious blog shits all over ycombinator too (for reasons I can't remember) which I find ironic now that there is a post about him here

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by tommorris » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 4:17 PM UTC

cbhl wrote: post #55

Fuxy wrote: post #43

I doubt he'd be willing to keep it up for more then a year but that still is a lot of help. Personally i think the way OpenBSD asked for help was kind of wrong. They just completely ignored the little each community member can pitch in and went for the big companies. That's how it seems at least from their announcement.

Frankly, relying on each little community member results in the kinds of banners and full-page modals you see on the English-language Wikipedia every year. I'm not entirely convinced that's a better alternative.

You press 'X' on Wikipedia fundraising banners and they go away for the duration of the fundraising period.

Problem solved.

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by pankkake » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 4:39 PM UTC

josephagoss wrote: post #49

hueving wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you know that? Someone could easily spread the coins across many addresses.

A lot of people on the Bitcointalk forums have made educated guesses, the fact is he still works on his business and charges for subscription to his blog, I doubt he has amassed the largest stash of Bitcoins in the world.

"the fact is he still works on his business" a lot of billionnaires still work on their businesses, if not most. This hasn't been the norm of Bitcoin - most people getting rich just went away with the coins, which is pretty bad. His estimation accounts for the assets he owns, same method as for the fiat billionnaires.

For the other question, there is only one pankkake.

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by brynet » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 8:33 PM UTC

Bob Beck (beck@) has announced the Foundation has received over $100,000 in donations from users / companies in the past week.

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=139024400731106&w=2

A campaign page for 2014 has been setup to help the project throughout the year. It includes a fancy progress bar.

http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/campaign2014.html

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by _ak » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 9:26 PM UTC

eksith wrote: post #51

_ak wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, who would really want to fund their compile farm of obscure vintage hardware if all they're really interested in is OpenSSH? Even if OpenBSD went bust, somebody would pick up OpenSSH eventually, without all the Vaxen and SGI machines and what not.

You may have missed the discussion from last time in which Theo explains the benefit of having older hardware. The dissatisfaction with OpenBSD seems to eerily mirror the incredibly short-sighted criticism of NASA funding : "Why do we spend all this money to send junk into space?" Which conveniently side-steps the innumerable benefits it produces. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=138973312304511&w=2 The answer to t…

I didn't miss it, and it's completely beside my point (N.B. I'm a VAX owner myself, playing with OpenBSD and NetBSD on it now and then, so I appreciate their efforts). I'm talking about the majority of people. Pretty much everyone uses OpenSSH, because it's the de-facto standard in SSH implementations, so that's the part of the OpenBSD project that's interesting for everyone. Vintage computing on the other side - not really interesting for most people. People just don't care about old hardware platforms, even when Theo claims that supporting them all has an overall benefit on OpenBSD as a whole.

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by edwintorok » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 10:33 PM UTC

thaumaturgy wrote: post #32

mappu wrote: post #24

Source was slashdot: http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/14/01/20/0348247 A few people asking about the 'billionaire' citation, he is the man behind http://mpex.co/ , an options exchange (css, who needs it?) and he apparently has a net worth of over 700k BTC ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3449849#ms... )

Hmm. This seems a bit premature. There's nothing yet on OpenBSD-Misc. And, even if this does go through -- not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but what OpenBSD was looking for was an ongoing, long-term commitment from someone, probably a business, to simply inherit the electric bill, and this would not be that. It's a little strange that a copy of some IRC logs are all that's needed now to make news.

List of contributors seems to have been updated: http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by rohshall » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 11:19 PM UTC

dredmorbius wrote: post #34

canadev wrote: post #17

What is the relationship between OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and NetBSD? And why would one choose one of those over Linux? Edit: Here's a link I just found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BSD_operating_sys... And one more: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/compa...

All the BSDs emerged from the BSD (Berkeley Standard Distribution) Unix tradition. All offer a generally monolithic "cathedral" style development approach to the OS as a whole (kernel, libraries, utilities, applications), rather than the more piecemeal "bazaar" style favored by most GNU/Linux distros. The BSDs in general have fragmented rather less than GNU/Linux development has, though the latter have also captured…

Nitpick: NetBSD did not fork from FreeBSD. Both FreeBSD and NetBSD are forks of 386BSD.

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by dredmorbius » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 11:31 PM UTC

rohshall wrote: post #78

dredmorbius wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the BSDs emerged from the BSD (Berkeley Standard Distribution) Unix tradition. All offer a generally monolithic "cathedral" style development approach to the OS as a whole (kernel, libraries, utilities, applications), rather than the more piecemeal "bazaar" style favored by most GNU/Linux distros. The BSDs in general have fragmented rather less than GNU/Linux development has, though the latter have also captured…

Nitpick: NetBSD did not fork from FreeBSD. Both FreeBSD and NetBSD are forks of 386BSD.

Thanks.

Re: Romanian saves OpenBSD?

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Post by gonzo » Tue, Jan 21, 2014, 4:12 AM UTC

brohee wrote: post #48

schwarze_pest wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lies... http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2009/eurobsdcon-faster_packets/...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Paul_Thomann Henning's humor isn't THAT inaccessible...

Yeah, I know who GP Thomann is (was). We sold the RE/search books at Fringeware.

But I'll bet 8 of 10 on HN do not. Moreover, some percentage of HN won't understand that OpenBSD forked from NetBSD, and the rest of the 'joke' stream will be lost.

And... I was responding to "lies".