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Tesla Motors’ Over-the-Air Repairs

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This post just a few away (on the front page) from "Cyber attack that sent 750k malicious emails traced to hacked refrigerator"

I suppose the correlation here being that I would be concerned about not only about malicious activities being committed against your car, but someone then turning your car against you or others within its range.

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post #18

This is really awesome. Now if only Carriers/Manufactures would update Android phones as quickly.

Carriers and manufacturers have no incentive to deliver a good experience on Android phones past the first few months. It's a high three digits dollar device at best with a profit margin probably in the double digits, and customers don't care enough to reward carriers for doing it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Your Tesla needs to update. Please close all doors and windows, then turn the car off and on again."

I was thinking more like Your Tesla is updating. Please do not press the gas pedal or brake pedal. 17% Right in the middle of I-280, of course.

Your Tesla will restart in 10... 9... 8...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking more like Your Tesla is updating. Please do not press the gas pedal or brake pedal. 17% Right in the middle of I-280, of course.

Your Tesla will restart in 10... 9... 8...

You guys no doubt think you're being funny, but the way it actually works is like iOS devices: after the download, the car asks you when you'd like to install it, with 2am the next morning being the default. The installation can only take place if the car is stationary, parked, and off.

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Its only a matter of time before over the air car hijacking becomes a real problem. I think I prefer my car not be wirelessly susceptible.

That seems crazy to me. Over the air updates will continually make your car safer. You're basically arguing that Windows Update is bad because someone could MITM it to inject an exploit into your computer. Sure, that's possible, but it's much more likely that the delay between availability and installation of an exploit will caused you to be owned.

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post #3

Its only a matter of time before over the air car hijacking becomes a real problem. I think I prefer my car not be wirelessly susceptible.

That seems crazy to me. Over the air updates will continually make your car safer. You're basically arguing that Windows Update is bad because someone could MITM it to inject an exploit into your computer. Sure, that's possible, but it's much more likely that the delay between availability and installation of an exploit will caused you to be owned.

No, he's arguing that a machine that consumes Windows Update is by very nature less secure than a machine with no network connection. Not because Windows Update is insecure, but because you've added an attack vector (network) and the software can be modified (e.g. EEPROM instead of ROM like in 80's cars). More difficult to permanently PWN a ROM, donchaknow.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That actually sounds a lot more like Microsoft - Windows and other products are sounding massive amount of telemetry data back to Redmond

Microsoft is huge software corporation that dominates operating system/productivity space. Tesla is a fairly small automotive company that is really innovative. I think that comparison is actually extremely flattering to Tesla. Anyways your point is correct, however it is one thing to get telemetry from your own operating system that connected to the internet, and entirely different beast to bring that kind of techno…

Because who doesn't love having their personal possessions tracked by third parties, right?

One person's feature is another person's backdoor.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your Tesla will restart in 10... 9... 8...

You guys no doubt think you're being funny, but the way it actually works is like iOS devices: after the download, the car asks you when you'd like to install it, with 2am the next morning being the default. The installation can only take place if the car is stationary, parked, and off.

* The installation can only take place if the car is stationary, parked, and off.

this of course, only works when the patch isn't to fix the part where it detects if the car is stationary, parked and off.

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