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I've always wondered more about Woz than Jobs! We get plenty of shrewd businessmen; they aren't a dime-a-dozen, but they aren't an enigma either. Kind of an understood phenomenon. People like Woz (at least based on the myriad recountings; I have not met the man) seem to actually be rare. I wonder if there was an interesting aspect to his youth, or what. Maybe the same way that you can have a psychopath, you can have…

He wrote a book called iWoz. It's definitely worth a read if you're interested in him. He was obsessed with building his own computer from a young age.

Yup. Far better than the Jobs autobiography, though both were fascinating people I think Woz resonates with the average person much better, though his skills and intellect are far above average.

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Sidenote: You can tell Woz is an amazing genuinely good person with no hint of pretension or self importance. A lot can be discerned about famous personalities by who they choose to follow. For example, you can tell whether the person has little utility for social networks but maybe started out following a scattering of experts relevant to their interests. Usually though, the personality is using their handful of fol…

I've always wondered more about Woz than Jobs! We get plenty of shrewd businessmen; they aren't a dime-a-dozen, but they aren't an enigma either. Kind of an understood phenomenon. People like Woz (at least based on the myriad recountings; I have not met the man) seem to actually be rare. I wonder if there was an interesting aspect to his youth, or what. Maybe the same way that you can have a psychopath, you can have…

Jobs was more than a "shrewd businessman". Building Pixar over 10 years into one of the top movie studios was not some "shrewd" business decision. Ditto for NeXT, the early Mac, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad.. It's more accurate to say he was a visionary who took a long term view.

It's only in retrospect that we have the luxury of looking on his track record as smart from a business standpoint. Woz even criticizes the early Mac for losing money. Says Scully saved the company. Which tells you a lot about what separates Woz from Jobs.

Folks like Woz were a big influence on Jobs. So were a bunch of other people. The idea that he just took other peoples' ideas and marketed them is the same old trope. He took the best raw, undeveloped ideas from the billions around him and fit them to together and refined them into something accessible to everyone. VERY FEW people can do that well. He proved he could do it, not just once, but countless times in multiple categories.

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You don't need millions to make technology bets. You were so sure RIM was going to implode? Why didn't you short the stock and laugh all the way to the bank? I'll tell you why. Things aren't so obvious when you have some skin in the game.

>You don't need millions to make technology bets. To become a household name as a genius capable of predicting the future you most certainly do. >I'll tell you why. Things aren't so obvious when you have some skin in the game. I'll tell you the real reason why: I make enough money to cover my living expenses, and that's about it. I am right about technology most of the time, but I don't have enough expendable income…

I think there are virtual stock markets that you can partake in to see how good you are (although this likely requires investing time which won't directly get paid back if you do well at it.) I wonder if people who do especially well in them can use virtual stock market success as a stepping stone to managing other peoples' money (and getting a cut).

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I've always wondered more about Woz than Jobs! We get plenty of shrewd businessmen; they aren't a dime-a-dozen, but they aren't an enigma either. Kind of an understood phenomenon. People like Woz (at least based on the myriad recountings; I have not met the man) seem to actually be rare. I wonder if there was an interesting aspect to his youth, or what. Maybe the same way that you can have a psychopath, you can have…

Jobs was more than a "shrewd businessman". Building Pixar over 10 years into one of the top movie studios was not some "shrewd" business decision. Ditto for NeXT, the early Mac, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad.. It's more accurate to say he was a visionary who took a long term view. It's only in retrospect that we have the luxury of looking on his track record as smart from a business standpoint. Woz even criticizes t…

And then take all the credit for the ideas, saying it came to him in a dream...pffft (touch interface for the iPhone).

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Lord Vishnu ?

Hindu god. "the all-pervading essence of all beings, the master of—and beyond—the past, present and future, the creator and destroyer of all existences, one who supports, preserves, sustains and governs the universe and originates and develops all elements within. Though he is usually depicted as blue, some other depictions of Vishnu exist as green-bodied, and in the Kurma Purana he is described as colorless and with…

I am Hindu. I was just suprised Lord Vishnu has a social media account.

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Many people usually go under-appreciated for their work that leads to major engineering feats. It seems to me that society likes to look at the past and attribute one thing or one person to what changed everything, when in reality it is the accumulation of several events that lead to major breakthroughs. Thomas Edison never invented the light bulb, but he did find a filament for the incandescent lamp so that it could…

Edison invented a practical light bulb. He also invented the industry that was able to deliver power to homes so they could use those light bulbs.

>He also invented the industry that was able to deliver power to homes so they could use those light bulbs.

Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought Edison was a proponent of DC current, rather than AC (it was tesla who pushed AC). I might have those two mixed up though.

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Edison invented a practical light bulb. He also invented the industry that was able to deliver power to homes so they could use those light bulbs.

>He also invented the industry that was able to deliver power to homes so they could use those light bulbs. Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought Edison was a proponent of DC current, rather than AC (it was tesla who pushed AC). I might have those two mixed up though.

You are correct. The industry was invented by Edison using DC; AC was an improvement that came later.

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I've always wondered more about Woz than Jobs! We get plenty of shrewd businessmen; they aren't a dime-a-dozen, but they aren't an enigma either. Kind of an understood phenomenon. People like Woz (at least based on the myriad recountings; I have not met the man) seem to actually be rare. I wonder if there was an interesting aspect to his youth, or what. Maybe the same way that you can have a psychopath, you can have…

Jobs was more than a "shrewd businessman". Building Pixar over 10 years into one of the top movie studios was not some "shrewd" business decision. Ditto for NeXT, the early Mac, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad.. It's more accurate to say he was a visionary who took a long term view. It's only in retrospect that we have the luxury of looking on his track record as smart from a business standpoint. Woz even criticizes t…

I wasn't making any particular assertion about what Jobs was. Call him a businessman, call him a visionary, call him whatever you like. Unfortunately, no matter what I call him, someone will object.
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