Live data from Hacker News

Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

plus.google.com

91–100 of 314 posts

Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

#91

> Woz: And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time. I have to say: That speaks volumes. And Woz, if you ever happen to read this: It's still a pile of dough in the year 2014.

$28,409,090.91 corrected for inflation.

Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

#92
post #63
post #54

Sidenote: You can tell Woz is an amazing genuinely good person with no hint of pretension or self importance. A lot can be discerned about famous personalities by who they choose to follow. For example, you can tell whether the person has little utility for social networks but maybe started out following a scattering of experts relevant to their interests. Usually though, the personality is using their handful of fol…

Lord Vishnu ?

Hindu god. "the all-pervading essence of all beings, the master of—and beyond—the past, present and future, the creator and destroyer of all existences, one who supports, preserves, sustains and governs the universe and originates and develops all elements within. Though he is usually depicted as blue, some other depictions of Vishnu exist as green-bodied, and in the Kurma Purana he is described as colorless and with red eyes.[1]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu

Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

#94

> Woz: And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time. I have to say: That speaks volumes. And Woz, if you ever happen to read this: It's still a pile of dough in the year 2014.

yeah he's a good guy but when saying that i think he lost track of what is wealth to "common people". Heck even HN readers are much higher the average income and 99% will never get even close to 10M. Or probably 99.9. maybe .99. ;-)

Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

#96
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edison invented a practical light bulb. He also invented the industry that was able to deliver power to homes so they could use those light bulbs.

Which is what I said and my point stands: how many people can actually give the correct answer to who created the first light bulb? Edison was attributed all of the credit when he built off the work of others, which isn't to say that's a bad thing but that this is usually how breakthroughs usually come about.

I have mixed feelings about the "correct" answer. Davy showed that wires glowed when enough current was passed through them. Does that count? Swan improved on that with his lightbulb lasting longer, but a few minutes life is incomplete. Edison finished the invention.

Me, I tend to give the credit for the invention to Edison, while acknowledging that he stood on the shoulders of others. It's how credit is done for most inventions.

Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

#97

> Woz: And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time. I have to say: That speaks volumes. And Woz, if you ever happen to read this: It's still a pile of dough in the year 2014.

It is quite conceivable that a $28M gift now would be perceived to be less significant than a $10M gift in late 1980. (media leading us to believe that 1B is the new 100M and all of that)

It is also conceivable that Woz seems distant from this huge financial figure not because of his being a successful "one-percenter" but due to a fundamental disinterest in money.

Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

#98

> Woz: And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time. I have to say: That speaks volumes. And Woz, if you ever happen to read this: It's still a pile of dough in the year 2014.

If I remember correctly (haven't seen it since 1999), _Pirates of Silicon Valley_ has a scene depicting Woz discussing this with Jobs, stating he's going to do it because it's the right thing.

Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

#99
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me they are the quintessential yin-yang startup duo. You don't have to pick a favorite. You don't need to figure out which one pulled more weight. It seems likely that if you removed one, the other would have failed. edit: chill out folks, I don't mean either guy would have been a penniless itinerant without the other. I'm saying they were much more successful together than apart. I know it's popular here to hate…

You should read or reread Woz's comment from OP. He was already quite successful, and widely respected. He may not have ended up being a billionaire without Jobs, but he wouldn't have been a failure. Jobs on the other hand struggled in nearly every aspect of his life, he couldn't stick with college, he got a job at Atari based on someone else's work, he was such a giant douche to everyone there that they wanted to fi…

I suspect the opposite but we'll never know. It seems clear to me that jobs had the vision and ability to make things happen which is typically more important than the technical know-how.

Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

#100
I hate the "Great Man" theory of history. It misses everything. Hitler was responsible for NAZIsm in Germany lets SO many people off the hook (including people in the US, UK, etc.) and "Jobs made Apple" takes credit away from so many others who not only deserve it, but in aggregate deserve ALL of it.

I'm a Jobs fan in many - but a fan of what he actually did (minus being a douche), not the myth.

Post reply on HN