As he said:
"Who the fuck is Carms Perez?"
Is she just some random bitch?
Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”
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Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”
#82Don't want to spoil iWoz for you, but wanted to mention that his father was pretty cool too. Allowed him to play with the right stuff that enabled him to build great things later in the future. And it is not like he was some kid-genius. It is just that when you have a full scale electronics lab at home, you tend to pick things up, even as a four year old.
As a side note, it is not the electronics lab specifically. It is keeping current with the state-of-the-art yourself, working with state-of-the-art stuff at home and letting your kids to fool around...
Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
The short version is that Siracusa recommends "Infinite Loop" by Michael Malone as the best single source for Apple history prior to the return of Jobs, and he says that the post-return material in the Isaacson book (ie, everything unique that it offers) is poor and/or limited.
Siracusa and short version are not things that go together and long may this last. The only tolerable thing about my daily commute is listening to him discuss his pet peeves. File systems, TVs, programming languages, the Minecraft install process (great episode) ebook formatting etc. He must be interesting to know as there are very few things he appears just accept and use without pondering improvements.
The Minecraft install process was on his new podcast. Here's the episode: http://atp.fm/episodes/25-thrustmaster-joystick
But yes, John Siracusa is a national treasure.
Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me they are the quintessential yin-yang startup duo. You don't have to pick a favorite. You don't need to figure out which one pulled more weight. It seems likely that if you removed one, the other would have failed. edit: chill out folks, I don't mean either guy would have been a penniless itinerant without the other. I'm saying they were much more successful together than apart. I know it's popular here to hate…
You should read or reread Woz's comment from OP. He was already quite successful, and widely respected. He may not have ended up being a billionaire without Jobs, but he wouldn't have been a failure. Jobs on the other hand struggled in nearly every aspect of his life, he couldn't stick with college, he got a job at Atari based on someone else's work, he was such a giant douche to everyone there that they wanted to fi…
>He may not have ended up being a billionaire without Jobs
I don't think he is a billionaire. Googling "net worth woz" finds several articles citing a net worth around $100 million.
But the point still stands (just at 1/10 the level.)
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Many people usually go under-appreciated for their work that leads to major engineering feats. It seems to me that society likes to look at the past and attribute one thing or one person to what changed everything, when in reality it is the accumulation of several events that lead to major breakthroughs. Thomas Edison never invented the light bulb, but he did find a filament for the incandescent lamp so that it could…
Edison invented a practical light bulb. He also invented the industry that was able to deliver power to homes so they could use those light bulbs.
Which is what I said and my point stands: how many people can actually give the correct answer to who created the first light bulb? Edison was attributed all of the credit when he built off the work of others, which isn't to say that's a bad thing but that this is usually how breakthroughs usually come about.
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Worst are probably "A Beautiful Mind" and "The Pentagon Wars".
"A Beautiful Mind" is the worst I've ever seen: - Most characters didn't exist, they are *inspired* by real persons - He never had visual hallucinations, only auditory - The hallucinations started *after* college - He and his wife divorced in 1963, they only remarried in 2001. - The pen laying and the Nobel ceremony never happened - Near the end of the movie, he say he's taking "new meds" while in real life, he stopp…
Jeeze, thanks for that I had no idea.
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>Besides Apple, Pixar and Next made Jobs billionaire too. If Apple had never existed, he wouldn't have had the hundreds of millions dollars that he spent on these endeavors. >Jobs was a natural leader and visionary. Jobs was good at recognizing when the right time to bet on a technology was. When you are filthy rich, you can turn this talent into a license to print money. When you aren't already rich, it just makes y…
You don't need millions to make technology bets. You were so sure RIM was going to implode? Why didn't you short the stock and laugh all the way to the bank? I'll tell you why. Things aren't so obvious when you have some skin in the game.
>You don't need millions to make technology bets.
To become a household name as a genius capable of predicting the future you most certainly do.
>I'll tell you why. Things aren't so obvious when you have some skin in the game.
I'll tell you the real reason why: I make enough money to cover my living expenses, and that's about it. I am right about technology most of the time, but I don't have enough expendable income to afford ever being wrong. I'm not saying that I would be a wealthy investor if I obtained a few million dollars to get started with, there are a lot of other variables that determine how well suited a person is to that kind of work, and I'm fairly certain that its not for me.
I'm just saying that Jobs wasn't some kind of futurist demigod.
Re: Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”
#88The ideal name for a movie about Steve Wozniak, given how often he's misrepresented in the whole Jobs/Apple story: Woz/Not Woz .
W = NW
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Besides Apple, Pixar and Next made Jobs billionaire too. If Apple had never existed, he wouldn't have had the hundreds of millions dollars that he spent on these endeavors. >Jobs was a natural leader and visionary. Jobs was good at recognizing when the right time to bet on a technology was. When you are filthy rich, you can turn this talent into a license to print money. When you aren't already rich, it just makes y…
"Jobs was good at recognizing when the right time to bet on a technology was. When you are filthy rich, you can turn this talent into a license to print money. When you aren't already rich, it just makes you the average person on HN." Jobs recognized the right time to bet on the personal computer when he had almost no money, and started Apple. You seem to be inferring Jobs always had a lot of money, which just isn't…
The conversation was under the hypothetical context of Apple not existing.
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You should read or reread Woz's comment from OP. He was already quite successful, and widely respected. He may not have ended up being a billionaire without Jobs, but he wouldn't have been a failure. Jobs on the other hand struggled in nearly every aspect of his life, he couldn't stick with college, he got a job at Atari based on someone else's work, he was such a giant douche to everyone there that they wanted to fi…
>He may not have ended up being a billionaire without Jobs I don't think he is a billionaire. Googling "net worth woz" finds several articles citing a net worth around $100 million. But the point still stands (just at 1/10 the level.)
Thanks for the correction.