"Median rent for a two bedroom apartment is $2,000 per month." Oh how I yearn for the good old days!
Not much different from Stockholm....
How the Internet Ruined San Francisco (1999)
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Re: How the Internet Ruined San Francisco (1999)
#42I don't want to sound callous but ... market forces shape and reshape cities all the time. When the facets of city-life in San Francisco that initially drew people fade away, people will flock somewhere else and the rents will stagnate or reverse. And if San Francisco is losing its allure as an artist's hub, perhaps other places (such as downtown Detroit) are compensating? I live in a reasonably affluent smaller city…
> I still haven't seen what I think is a viable solution What about cooperative ownership? When an asset is communally owned, it reduces the temptation for people to destroy it for a payout.
Didn't Stalin try this?
Re: How the Internet Ruined San Francisco (1999)
#43Living in a desirable place has always been popular. And its popularity fluctuates. Those who rent rather than buy are most exposed to those fluctuations. Those who buy are most likely to profit. That's how it works. Nothing new about it and there's no way to change it, except perhaps stopping the Federal Reserve from creating bubbles with cheap money.
Strikes me that a lot of renters want the advantages of property ownership but none of the responsibilities.
Maybe most of them couldn't dream of actually owning property.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
What seems ridiculous to me is that the city that's absorbing the 'artists' is... Oakland! 20-minutes, or one BART stop away! That sounds fine to me. As SF gets bigger, let people overflow into Oakland. I don't see what's so bad about that. The only people who are really concerned about this are the ones to insist that SF and Oakland are totally different cities. Come on guys, they've been the same economic region fo…
Yeah, let's pave over that lake and call it a deal.
Sorry, what do you have against Lake Merritt?
Re: How the Internet Ruined San Francisco (1999)
#45I grew up in the Silicon Valley. One of the riches places in the world. The tech hub. Engineers. Soccer moms. Workaholic dads. The sound of leafblowers 24/7. No parties, no night life. Work work work. Money money money. Get a 2400 on your SAT. Get straight A's and go to UC Berkeley, and if you don't go there you're a failure. Go to the gym every day at 7AM. Eat healthy organic fruits. Everything you could ever possib…
I grew up 3,000 miles from Silicon Valley, and my childhood was pretty much the same as yours, except with less organic fruit.
Re: How the Internet Ruined San Francisco (1999)
#46I grew up in the Silicon Valley. One of the riches places in the world. The tech hub. Engineers. Soccer moms. Workaholic dads. The sound of leafblowers 24/7. No parties, no night life. Work work work. Money money money. Get a 2400 on your SAT. Get straight A's and go to UC Berkeley, and if you don't go there you're a failure. Go to the gym every day at 7AM. Eat healthy organic fruits. Everything you could ever possib…
I grew up there too and will live there in a yr or two again. I partied, raved, did drugs, made unforgettable friendships, went hiking, water rafting, and much more. Iunno man. Might want to hit one of the local boys or girls up. Many people are unaware of how many different types of lifestyles are very close. Their lives just self select for similar populations.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you're having this shit shoved down your throat for your entire upbringing come back and tell me it's an opportunity.
when you've lived a life where you've never had any such opportunity, come back and tell me it's a burden. EDIT: I just realized this is a classic 'first-world problem', but extended to 'first-world-upper-class problem'.
Oh look, the Oppression Olympics[1] is in town.
Someone always has it worse than you. That does not invalidate pikachu_is_cool's feelings of existential emptiness.
[1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oppression%20...
Re: How the Internet Ruined San Francisco (1999)
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you're having this shit shoved down your throat for your entire upbringing come back and tell me it's an opportunity.
when you've lived a life where you've never had any such opportunity, come back and tell me it's a burden. EDIT: I just realized this is a classic 'first-world problem', but extended to 'first-world-upper-class problem'.
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Re: How the Internet Ruined San Francisco (1999)
#49I grew up in the Silicon Valley. One of the riches places in the world. The tech hub. Engineers. Soccer moms. Workaholic dads. The sound of leafblowers 24/7. No parties, no night life. Work work work. Money money money. Get a 2400 on your SAT. Get straight A's and go to UC Berkeley, and if you don't go there you're a failure. Go to the gym every day at 7AM. Eat healthy organic fruits. Everything you could ever possib…
Silicon valley almost killed me. Moving north to San Francisco was one of the big turning points in my life.
Same here, I moved to Reno myself, and although it's kind of a shithole here, it's far better than living in the Valley.
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I live in Silicon Valley, and we have both parties and night life. It depends on who your friends are. I also knew a lot of people back in Cleveland who were living the workaholic life, trying to get into the best colleges, and so forth. So that they could leave Cleveland behind. It's a state of mind, not a place. I realize this may not be a popular point of view among San Franciscans, but I think the east bay and so…
Cupertino (which is what I was referring to) is also ridiculously expensive, too. The apartment that I moved out of 2 years ago now costs $4,000 a month. Also, I'm not talking about the rich adult night life. I'm talking about stuff you can do while you're growing up there. All of the kids my age were obsessed with getting straight A's, hardly any of them went out. The ones who were able to either were always in SF/S…
Sorry to hear that your peers were not much fun growing up. If it makes you feel any better, I felt the same way, living in Ohio.
It seems like you must have had a very expensive apartment indeed. There are 3 bedroom standalone homes available for rent in Cupertino for less than 4,000 a month... like this one: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/apa/4287573131.html