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Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me”

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For those who haven't yet, I'd highly recommend reading "Steve Jobs", the biography by Isaacson. It portrays pretty much all of these events like Woz describes them, and is a very complete portrait of Jobs. Woz' status at HP as referenced isn't really covered, but his actions during the Apple I and II launches are pretty complete. EDIT: I'd like to point out that this book covers everything, up to Jobs death, and is…

iWoz is also a decent recollection of those times. A very interesting read overall though focuses more on Woz than on Jobs.

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For those who haven't yet, I'd highly recommend reading "Steve Jobs", the biography by Isaacson. It portrays pretty much all of these events like Woz describes them, and is a very complete portrait of Jobs. Woz' status at HP as referenced isn't really covered, but his actions during the Apple I and II launches are pretty complete. EDIT: I'd like to point out that this book covers everything, up to Jobs death, and is…

And I recommend the reading of iWoz

It goes in much deeper detail in some Apple aspects (until the Apple II, of course) but it's a nicer book in general (I mean, less rushed)

But they are both great reads.

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> When I first met Jobs, I had EVERY Dylan album. I was a hardcore fan. I had bootlegs too. Jobs knew a few popular Dylan songs and related to the phrase "when you ain't got nothin' you got nothing to lose." I showed Jobs all my liner notes and lyrics and took him to record stores near San Jose State and Berkeley to buy Dylan bootlegs. I showed him brochures full of Dylan quotes and articles and photos. I brought Job…

Woz did things everyone knows they can't do, so he's marginalized as a freak.

Jobs did things everyone thinks they can do, so he's worshipped as a god.

I'm half-kidding. Half not.

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> When I first met Jobs, I had EVERY Dylan album. I was a hardcore fan. I had bootlegs too. Jobs knew a few popular Dylan songs and related to the phrase "when you ain't got nothin' you got nothing to lose." I showed Jobs all my liner notes and lyrics and took him to record stores near San Jose State and Berkeley to buy Dylan bootlegs. I showed him brochures full of Dylan quotes and articles and photos. I brought Job…

I'm not really familiar with this stereotype. Quite the contrary, it seems to me that a lot of geeks and nerds are very passionate about their musical tastes. Classic example is Patrick Volkerding and Grateful Dead.

I think Woz is responding the myth that somehow Jobs has taken the aesthetics and free-spiritedness of the 60's counter-culture revolution and infused into Apple and that's what has made it stand out and thrive in comparison to the staid counterparts in computing (e.g., IBM/HP/Microsoft). Also, there was a long-standing rumor that Jobs had a long-time "under-the-table" liason with Joan Baez who was also a long time music collaborator and lover to Bob Dylan.

Tbh, it's sad that Woz comes out of the woodwork once in awhile to carp on his one-time partner. Yes Jobs was an ass-hole but Woz has all of the money in the world to get high, get a young nice-looking woman and play League or Dota2. In terms of the "intellectual man" who got snubbed by the "type-A asshole," Woz should learn from Paul Allen who reinvented himself as a renaissance man who long moved on from computing to owner of the Seattle Seahawks and blues guitar extraordinaire who jams with Clapton. At the very least, try going to the gym to get rid of that atrocious love-handle of his.

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For those who haven't yet, I'd highly recommend reading "Steve Jobs", the biography by Isaacson. It portrays pretty much all of these events like Woz describes them, and is a very complete portrait of Jobs. Woz' status at HP as referenced isn't really covered, but his actions during the Apple I and II launches are pretty complete. EDIT: I'd like to point out that this book covers everything, up to Jobs death, and is…

And I recommend the reading of iWoz It goes in much deeper detail in some Apple aspects (until the Apple II, of course) but it's a nicer book in general (I mean, less rushed) But they are both great reads.

I thought iWoz was bittersweet, even cautionary. Here's this brilliant guy doing unbelievable work, then after he makes it he's just spending his time figuring out what to do with the money ... and he designs a new remote so he can watch TV better.

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> When I first met Jobs, I had EVERY Dylan album. I was a hardcore fan. I had bootlegs too. Jobs knew a few popular Dylan songs and related to the phrase "when you ain't got nothin' you got nothing to lose." I showed Jobs all my liner notes and lyrics and took him to record stores near San Jose State and Berkeley to buy Dylan bootlegs. I showed him brochures full of Dylan quotes and articles and photos. I brought Job…

Woz did things everyone knows they can't do, so he's marginalized as a freak. Jobs did things everyone thinks they can do, so he's worshipped as a god. I'm half-kidding. Half not.

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> When I first met Jobs, I had EVERY Dylan album. I was a hardcore fan. I had bootlegs too. Jobs knew a few popular Dylan songs and related to the phrase "when you ain't got nothin' you got nothing to lose." I showed Jobs all my liner notes and lyrics and took him to record stores near San Jose State and Berkeley to buy Dylan bootlegs. I showed him brochures full of Dylan quotes and articles and photos. I brought Job…

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> When I first met Jobs, I had EVERY Dylan album. I was a hardcore fan. I had bootlegs too. Jobs knew a few popular Dylan songs and related to the phrase "when you ain't got nothin' you got nothing to lose." I showed Jobs all my liner notes and lyrics and took him to record stores near San Jose State and Berkeley to buy Dylan bootlegs. I showed him brochures full of Dylan quotes and articles and photos. I brought Job…

Woz did things everyone knows they can't do, so he's marginalized as a freak. Jobs did things everyone thinks they can do, so he's worshipped as a god. I'm half-kidding. Half not.

Many people usually go under-appreciated for their work that leads to major engineering feats. It seems to me that society likes to look at the past and attribute one thing or one person to what changed everything, when in reality it is the accumulation of several events that lead to major breakthroughs. Thomas Edison never invented the light bulb, but he did find a filament for the incandescent lamp so that it could be mass produced.
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