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Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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When I first left America, I disliked and felt disillusioned with the country. I've now spent more of my adult life outside the States than in the U.S., and I've also come to the opinion that the U.S. is one of the most amazing places in the world. Sometimes it's hard to point to exactly why America is so amazing. And the answer, maybe, is on display here. An undergraduate student at an elite university just innovati…

People are varied just about everywhere. I've also spent a bit of time overseas and one attitude I rarely find and sometimes miss is the American style rock-n-roll fuck authority I'm gonna do what I want attitude. There are similar attitudes elsewhere, but they're a bit different than the American one.

And I agree, in Asia, it's very absent. I used to be surprised when I'd see an interview with some very hard rock band in Asia and they'd spend the interview quietly bowing and talking more or less like the proper primped pop-idol they just had on. It felt like the rock image was just a costume rather than being the free spirit of the person coming out. I've seen so many occasions in Asia where a situation called for an American style go fuck yourself response and it never appeared. I think a great many of the social ills you find in Confucian countries could be resolved with a sprinkle of American style rock and roll.

You're right though, taking that kind of life approach in Asia can be a life destroyer. In America there's enough of a critical mass of people who have and understand that kind of approach to life, and accept it in others, that you can be that way and find enough of a support network to still live a good life.

Europeans, in my observation, have a different kind of attitude. It's more of a fuck the old guard, fuck the status quo attitude that's probably informed by the last couple hundred years of European history. It can take on many of the same kinds of symbols and stylings as the American rock n roll way, but I think it has different goals and expected outcomes.

I also agree that the American attitude, while good for some things, can become boring and tiresome when it turns into stupid contrariness for the sake of being oppositional.

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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When I first left America, I disliked and felt disillusioned with the country. I've now spent more of my adult life outside the States than in the U.S., and I've also come to the opinion that the U.S. is one of the most amazing places in the world. Sometimes it's hard to point to exactly why America is so amazing. And the answer, maybe, is on display here. An undergraduate student at an elite university just innovati…

Now if only US can maintain that. The trend is certainly not in its favor. Corrupt media who doesn't tend to cover stuff that truly hurt the government's power, the rise of the police/SWAT state, the rise of the surveillance state, the upcoming conflict over what drones can or can not do in US, and so on.

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The extension: > (3) not scraping or collecting Yale’s data Yet in the code[0], there's a function called getRatingsForCourse() that makes an ajax call to url: " https://ybb.yale.edu/courses/" + id. How is this not scraping? Am I missing something here? [0]: https://github.com/seanhaufler/banned-bluebook/blob/master/e...

That function just retrieves the rating for one course, based on the course ID that the user has retrieved by searching for some courses. It is certainly requesting data from Yale's server, but I wouldn't call it scraping. To qualify as scraping (at least as I've done it), you'd have to iterate over all possible IDs and store the records in a database. For example, consider this basketball scraper: https://github.com…

Scraping = extracting data from a third-party website. Even if you had a site on a specific course, fetching data for a single resource, it's still scraping.

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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I partially agree with the university's reasoning on this; displaying course ratings like it's a food menu is disencouraging thought, not something you expect from an academic environment, and it can't have a good outcome regarding course selection. They just should have found a better way to combat that instead of brute force.

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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That function just retrieves the rating for one course, based on the course ID that the user has retrieved by searching for some courses. It is certainly requesting data from Yale's server, but I wouldn't call it scraping. To qualify as scraping (at least as I've done it), you'd have to iterate over all possible IDs and store the records in a database. For example, consider this basketball scraper: https://github.com…

Scraping = extracting data from a third-party website. Even if you had a site on a specific course, fetching data for a single resource, it's still scraping.

Scraping = extracting data from a third-party website.

That definition would seem to include some journalistic quotes.

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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When I first left America, I disliked and felt disillusioned with the country. I've now spent more of my adult life outside the States than in the U.S., and I've also come to the opinion that the U.S. is one of the most amazing places in the world. Sometimes it's hard to point to exactly why America is so amazing. And the answer, maybe, is on display here. An undergraduate student at an elite university just innovati…

Without diminishing what you say, it happens in other democratic countries as well. In many Latin American universities (and even lower education) the students are a force to be reckoned with. For example, in recent years a student coalition demonstrated against the education policies of former president of Chile, Sebastián Piñera, and it was a major crisis. Similar demonstrations can happen against, for example, the…

Not to be pedantic, but Piñera at this very moment is still governing and Michelle Bachelet has not taken his post yet.

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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if you wish to be pedantic they seem to be working around the university using clever technical hacks, rather than fighting the underlying issue. (note that it's the law in the UK, not some worthless university document)

This is an active and vibrant defense of freedom, not some worthless British law. (Oh I'm sorry, did I just libel Her Majesty's judicial system? How careless of me. I should watch what I write).

Wait, why is the British law worthless? I'm assuming I'm mistaken, but your claim seems to be solely on the fact you can commit libel from what seems to be the USA on a website not hosted in the UK. That would seem to imply our entire legal system is broken because we don't censor other countries publications, and it'd obviously be interesting to hear the justification behind that.

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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I believe unedditreddit was removed due to trademark issues, but I could be wrong. As this extension does not have any of Yale's trademarks within and (demonstrably, based on source) does not impact the site, Yale should not have a leg to stand on. But your point about doing it in Firefox is a very good one. Firefox's extension addons site is much more democratic. And side-loading extensions within Firefox outside of…

That possibility probably didn't help, but eventually somebody from google told me they wouldn't bring the app back even if I changed the name. You bring up another interesting point about impact to the yale site though. This app does impact the yale site, by having clients issue extra ajax requests. It not an unreasonable load but I wonder if that might muddle the issue again. For unedditreddit I was able to complet…

I'm impressed you even got word one from Google, but out of curiosity, did they ever say why they wouldn't bring back your app, or did they just leave it at "because f you"?

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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When I first left America, I disliked and felt disillusioned with the country. I've now spent more of my adult life outside the States than in the U.S., and I've also come to the opinion that the U.S. is one of the most amazing places in the world. Sometimes it's hard to point to exactly why America is so amazing. And the answer, maybe, is on display here. An undergraduate student at an elite university just innovati…

> I've now spent more of my adult life outside the States than in the U.S., and I've also come to the opinion that the U.S. is one of the most amazing places in the world. Yes. The American backed/sponsored slaughter of innocent men, women, and children across the Middle East and Africa in the name of profit, power, and greed doesn't seem to cross your mind. Also, it's clear that as an American you have free speech,…

What you said doesn't contradict what he was saying. It's certainly possible that the most amazing country in the world also slaughters innocents in the Middle East and Africa.

Re: Yale censored a student's course catalog site. I made an unblockable replacement

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The difference is that in the Yale case, the creators of the data want it to be consumed. Whereas UER was making a copy of and serving content against its authors' wishes.

It is not that black and white though. So many comments are are deleted by moderators for baloney reasons. Moderators have become the new digg power users and they are really hurting reddit. See the recent standupshots controversy. What about highly upvoted/downvoted comments that are then edited to reverse or change the sentiment. Other conversation participants have no right to see the original context? To be fair…

> What about highly upvoted/downvoted comments that are then edited to reverse or change the sentiment.

This is why it pays to quote context in Internet discussions.

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