How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?
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How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?
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Re: How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?
#2Well, if this statement is actually true:
> The reality is that any of our senior developers can walk out the door and have a new job with as much as 30-40% higher pay within a week.
...it seems there's a pretty obvious object lesson to be had.
Re: How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?
#3"How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?"
By finding a better job elsewhere and resigning? (Assuming, of course, that this person is really as good as they think they are.)
Re: How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?
#4I think explaining that "Most senors developers can leave and get another job with a 30-40% higher pay" and that "most current developers stay because of the flexible time and casual environment" is a very strong point. I would try to understand a bit more the concern about the forced 8 hours a day at the office.
But obviously, if the manager is just dumb, just go to higher authority and explain that this manager could create lots of problems (I.e. pissing off the lead developer who has most of the software knowledge isn't wise. . especially if he's already happy and doing a great job.)
If the higher authority doesn't give a @!$ well.. send me an e-mail I'm looking for great javascript developers ; )
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Re: How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?
#6I think the simple way would be to just ask for a raise to market levels or in lieu of more pay you would take additional privileges such as being able to set your own hours.
Re: How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?
#7How can you make it a conversation about company objectives? Make it about the company, not the developers. There are probably companies that don't need the best developers. Others do. Talk about cost of bugs due to less experienced devs, lost productivity time if new hires are needed, etc.
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If every non-engineering manager you've ever had has been a problem then there's a good chance that you're the problem, not them.
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#9Re: How do you tell managers that having good developers is a privilege?
#10You quit.